On 07/31/2014 11:20 AM, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
El 31/07/14 a las #4, Anton Aylward escribió:
On 07/31/2014 11:03 AM, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
switching to wayland is a shitload of work
So I wonder ... Is there anyone trying to implement Qt or GTK without the need for all the X-Widnwws layering?
QT5 and GTK3 are well under way and working. There are already commercial products using the QT5 version.
Is this like the st3, qt4 and gtk2 that we know and locae and make life easier when one wants to write applications without knowing all the ins and outs of X-Windows BUT STILL MAKES USE OF X-WINDOWS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE GRAPHICS STACK, or are these packages that allow the Gnome and KDE applications we know and love to run -- somehow -- without having X-Windows underneath gobbling space ...with a RSS of over 150M and the kwin of nearly twice that. Kconsole takes less than 1M and bash-login less than 2M, but if you run a trace of what it takes when you press a key while running a shell in Kconsole to see it echo back, its horrendous! And just think of what its taking me here with T'Bird composing this! Another has been talking about bloat as in items in /usr/local, but that just ignores the bloat of the items in /usr/lib, doesn't it? But what really counts is the bloat at the lower levels of the graphics stack, since its runtime that matters, not what's sitting there on disk waiting to be used. -- /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML Mail / \ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org