Hi list, (I'm running TW, but I assume the issue is more general) After some issues with the latest update, I wanted to boot the previous kernel to see if that helps. /etc/default/grub is set to GRUB_DEFAULT=saved GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true GRUB_TIMEOUT=0 As there is only on main OS on anyhow. OK, so press SHIFT during boot and ..... nothing, it just boots the default entry without even showing the menu. Also tried 't' (which is sometimes requested to press, too). No luck either, so I eventually gave up. So I changed the two timeout values to 2, and ran the grub2-mkconfig program. It still doesn't show the menu and just boots the default entry! I start getting quite pissed, TBH. OK, change the default boot entry or use grub2-once. But to what!? There are 31 possible commands listed if you type grub2-<TAB><TAB> NONE of them seems to be useful to provide the boot numbers from the menu. Nor does the manpage of programs that need this number as input give you a clue where to get the right number from. Why is SHIFT not working? Why does it ignore TIMEOUT settings? Why are manpages close to useless? What kind of **** is this? (Sorry for bad words, it's the weakest I could find) OK, somewhat cooled down, I'll try googling a bit more. But if someone already knows (some of) the answers.... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org