On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 1:49 PM, jdd <jdd@dodin.org> wrote:
I just notice that there will be nomore kde3 for the upcomming openSUSE 11.2. I don't want to grin. Not necessary. I just wanted to ask here what do you have in kde3.5 and don't find in kde4 and you would like to have. Not to say you will have it but to give info to devs... I stopped using kde4 on 11.1 for problems in the config panel and lack of understanding of the new windows layout. I expect this to be solved before next release; what do you think? be constructive :-)
Unfortunately, this has been tried before, and the KDE3 users were basically harrassed and ignored and told to just suck it up and deal with a basically broken KDE4 because it is the wave of the future(which is basically what M$ is doing with Vista). I had previously exposed many fallacies with KDE4 in regards to faster and leaner, but was ignored, or told to waste money on nerwer hardware. The only reason I even chimed in recently was because I had an issue with NetworkManager which was caused by an issue with the Buildservice, which should not have happened in a SuSE distro. SuSE's quality has dropped with the empasis on glitz, so I've basically moved on to testing out other Distros. I will be installing PCLinuxOS 2009 which is KDE3 based this week since I now have a lot of time because I was laid off. KDE4 wasn't ready for prime time, and the major and vocal supporters are the ones who are keeping their system fully updated with the build service. They have forgotten that the majority of users don't use these mailing lists and don't keep their systems up to date with the current KDE4.2.x versions, but that these same users have to deal with only whatever updates that are released for them via the update service. As someone who had supported SuSE since 1999, I'm very disappointed with the current 11.1, and still use 11.0 on most of my stuff while I evaluate where I will go from here. I paid for about a dozen versions over those years, and would gladly continue doing so if the quality was what I had come to expect. I do believe that the community idea is a good one, but since the community seems to be ignoring some people by saying won't fix or just upgrade, IMO, it's got a long way to go. Maybe in a couple of releases I will see what I have come to expect from SuSE, but I don't see it now, and the lack of support for current versions(isn't 10.3 still supported as well?) and the push to only include the next big thing is counter to what I had come to expect. SuSE always pushed boundaries, but it also made sure stuff was stable. The 10.1 fiasco with the broken package system that was shoved in during the 3rd Beta and then a release with a broken package system was bad enough. 11.1's broken KDE3 install IF you change ANYTHING is as bad if not worse. The Freedom we have with Linux and FOSS is what allows us to use a specific version, but it also allows us to move on when what we want/need is no longer the same as where the current version is going. As the motto says: Have a lot of fun! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org