And who cares about shutdown time? I am leaving and let the OS do the shutdown. Wether that is 10 seconds or 10 minutes, I could not care less.
Really? You don't care? Well, if I have to upgrade the kernel on a production server, I care a heck of a lot, because my reboot time is shutdown+BIOS+boot - so if it's 10 minutes to shutdown, that makes for an unacceptably high downtime. Shutdown time matters, plain and simple. Oh, and if I'm out and about with my laptop, shutdown time affects when I have to think about stopping working if I need to move to catch a train or something (/me never suspends - should probably at least test it for bugzilla purposes actually...) -- James Ogley james@usr-local-bin.org GNOME for SuSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Make Poverty History: http://makepovertyhistory.org