I wonder if SUSE would consider putting together a proposal to bid to migrate them to openSUSE. The City of Munich has vocalized that their goal is to utilize The community support as their primary support so it would primarily be the desktop and possibly server migrations that they would be doing. openSUSE would end up gaining 15K or whatever number of desktops they have now. It would be a great advertising tool and case study for migration to SUSE and implementing a Enterprise that large on SUSE. The City of Munich will of course continue to get headlines for MiLux for years to come. On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Marcus Meissner <meissner@suse.de> wrote:
Hi,
The main issue with the City of Munich is that we would be just one component.
They probably need a consulting/software company that can handle a big city with ten thousands of machines.
Release plans / schedules should be discussed under a different mail topic.
Ciao, Marcus
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 09:06:29AM -0500, Timothy Butterworth wrote:
From: <backgroundprocess@gmail.com>
"Evergreen releases are still less than half the supported time of a Ubuntu LTS release, so it would be a poor choice and difficult sell to the city of Munich. That's one major drawback to openSUSE and one debate that should be had; I've been talking to lots of people on Windows and they're still running XP or Vista. Many people run their OS for 10 years. openSUSE people want the desktop, yet they're unwilling to support it longer than 18 months unless it's an Evergreen release, and even then it's not Ubuntu LTS comparable."
From:
"In the past long running stable releases were the area for SLED instead of Opensuse.
Will we ever get out of the mold of just being a proving ground for SLED?"
This is what I think we should do!
openSUSE Evergreen releases can range from 3-4 years of support but 3 is essentially guaranteed. Starting with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, both The Server and Desktop versions will receive 5 years support.
We are slightly shorter by around two years for Evergreen LTS releases, as the next Evergreen release is also free of cost and openSUSE upgrades do work rather well. I do not really see needing to bump up to a five year Guarantee.
I would like to see openSUSE start using the Major.0 release again and possibly move to this type of release cycle.
14.0 Evergreen Release 14.1 Developer/Tester/Enthusiast Release targeted to development of the next Evergreen 14.2 Developer/Tester/Enthusiast Release targeted to development of the next Evergreen 14.3 Developer/Tester/Enthusiast Release targeted to development of the next Evergreen 15.0 Evergreen Release (15.1 + 3 Months) = 14.0 Evergreen EOL
This would provide around a 13 month stabilizing for the Evergreen release before users need to migrate over to it. This would make an evergreen release receive support for just over four years, but incorporating release delays it would put us close to five years. Evergreen EOL = (5 Releases + 3 Months)
For the minor update releases they are currently supported for around 18 months (2 releases + 2 months). I would rather see these change to (1 release + 4 months). Most users do not keep minor releases for 18 months. Keeping them maintained this long does use up resources. I think we should treat the 3 minor update release's as the proving ground developer/tester/enthusiast targeted releases to work up to the new Evergreen release. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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