KDE Kinternet function is working fine when used within the KDE desktop (windows) environment as it was intended. No problems. But I want to activate this functionality (less the windows displays and mouse movements) from the command line in order to achieve dial up and internet connection. I thought doing this would be straight forward but now it looks like it's way over my head. WHAT I DID: From the command line I tried the various components that appear (according to the Internet log) to be utilized (smpppd-ifcfg then the daemon smpppd and then /etc/ppp/ip-up with the dial up apparently automatically called within the operation of PPP0) but the connection established would not work when the script applied a ping. I have no idea why not because Kinternet works and all the associated configuration files appear to be in order. Firewall and other things appear to be manipulated in these scripts which may account for a connection that does not let anything through. Perhaps I execute the wrong scripts or miss out on some variable that Kinternet sets or who knows why. Which is why I now come to the list. I would very much like to activate this capability as root from the command line without having to have the KDE desktop open (which uses CPU and Memory resources) when all I am running on this particular machine is a gateway/router. I was able to do this on a previous SuSE 6.4 distribution, also a Slackware and also a Red Hat but SuSE 9.1 is now more complicated and integrated than 6.4. Apparently Kinternet utilizes a script that does all the non windows functions and it does not appear possible to simply call Kinternet and turn off these windows operations. I tried looking inside Kinternet but was not successful. -- way too much GUI stuff. First Question: Probably the answer is NO. Can kinternet be used on the command line outside of the KDE windows environment??? Second Question: If not, does anyone have a command line expression (or series of expressions) that will do the same thing less all the windows specific operations. I used to be able to do this with some interaction with the modem (to dial up and connect to the ISP) and one command line to deal with PPP0 internet connectivity. That command line no longer does the job. TED