Jesus! what a whining! It looks like you [americans] want everything to go the pizza hut or mcdonald's way ... even what OSes are concerned. Sorry of the flame but I am somehow fed up by that kind of super-market mentality. Anyway ... APS ] Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:45:31 -0500 (EST) ] Reply-To: camst65+@pitt.edu ] From: Chris Martin <camst65+@pitt.edu> ] To: Zulfiqar Naushad <zulfiqar@shaw.wave.ca> ] Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Vote for SuSE ] Cc: suse-linux-e@suse.com, Gerry Doris <gdoris@shaw.wave.ca> ] ] ] I couldn't agree more with this. I have to admit that despite the fact that ] SuSE has been very good to me (as a product), the recent total lack of ] attention to detail surrounding 6.0 and the fact that RedHat is exploding ] forward give me many doubts about SuSE as a company. Ultimately, in this ] consumer driven world, the only way products hang around, even when they are ] good/great like SuSE, is to have the coplementary good/great backing through ] various support channels and, of course, things like an up to date and ] comprehensive web site and, generally, a strong and attentive company ] backing it. And, one must remember the mantra invoked by most strong companies ] (RedHat?), IMAGE, IMAGE IMAGE Else, like someone on here so correctly said, ] SuSE becomes the Amiga, the OS2, etc. I like SuSE a lot, but I am feeling less ] and less like putting up with being in the minority's minority (even given that ] I have a slightly better product) and with difficulties in getting what I want ] when I want it (like RPM's! and up to date WebPages). If SuSE doesn't shift ] into high gear, I fear that even your above average computer user, who ] appreciates what SuSE has to offer over other distbns, will find themselves ] nonetheless considering other distbns for these myriad reasons. ] ] To end this all on a nice note: Go SuSE! ] ] ] ] On 10-Feb-99 Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: ] > ] > I couldn't have said it better. ] > ] > SuSE , I personally think, is a better product than RH, but seeing that they ] > do not promote their product well in NA really really does hurt them where it ] > hurts most. RH is almost synonymous with Linux, and vice versa. In fact, a ] > newbie friend of mine didn't know that there was a company other than RH that ] > produced Linux [distros]. ] > ] > And yes, the american site of SuSE is a shame!! I mean it. www.suse.de/e is ] > much better and much up to date. Why can't they just mirror the site to the ] > american version, with some changes of course. ] > ] > ps. Gerry, I noticed that you are a Shaw Wave customer, so am I. ] > ] > I just wanted to ask where did you get your SuSE package? I got mine from ] > Chapters [Highway7 and Woodbine] for only 45 bucks. ] > ] > I noticed that Chapters is now carrying the CALDERA OPEN LINUX 1.3 BASE ] > version, but the price is a whopping 110 Canadian Dollars. JEEZ!!! ] > ] > Gerry Doris wrote: ] > ] >> ] >> 6.0 has been released in Europe but Suse haven't bothered to update their ] >> NA website in months. There is still the same old tired description of ] >> what were going to be treated to...and much of it is wrong (ie. will ship ] >> with 2.2 kernel, will be totally 2.2 kernel ready...). I've heard rumours ] >> that 6.0 is actually shipping in NA but you wouldn't know it from anything ] >> Suse does. Most companies would be making press releases all over the ] >> place??? ] >> ] >> Sorry if I'm being overly critical but there are other people working ] >> very very hard to get my attention and $$$. If Suse thinks that just ] >> tossing a product into the market (even if it's a superior product) will ] >> win the day, well, they have a lot to learn. ] >> ] > ] > ] > ] > ] > - ] > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with ] > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e ] > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the ] > archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>> ] ] ------------------------------------------ ] E-Mail: Chris Martin <camst65@pitt.edu> ] Date: 10-Feb-99 ] Time: 08:29:37 ] ] ** Powered by SuSE Linux. 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