i read many mailing lists and the suse-linux-e mailing list sticks out in one annoying aspect - and that is, people quote all messages when replying and then someone else quotes the original and the reply and his and so on. there are messages on the list of depth 7 - so less than 10% by average is actual message text. please take care when including the original message when replying. it's a fabulous tool to establish context for something you have to say, but it's not there to make multiple and more multiple copies of emails here and there. thanks for your time, martin [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo madduck@!#:1:s@\@@@.net -- "it appears that pl/i (and its dialects) is, or will be, the most widely used higher level language for systems programming." -- j. sammet