On 2016-12-07 18:55, Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2016-12-07 13:43, Anton Aylward wrote:
If you do that with a mail provider in Spain, your mail is refused, because your account only allows you to send with the contracted mail address, and opensuse.org is not telefonica.net.
Is it really the same with every Spanish mail provider? (just being curious).
At least, with all I have tried, some of them now extinct. Tiscali was one.
Thus, for sending email with my opensuse.org alias I have to send it via gmail, and tell the gmail people to authorize me to send with my from set to opensuse.org (they have a form for this).
I also have to configure Thunderbird (or postfix) to use my gmail account ID and password when sending with the opensuse.org from.
Ie, I have to jump several loops to be able to send.
Well, two hoops.
Yep, but there are several places that need configuration and testing, so I count several smaller loops. Or hoops. :-)
Then, several recipients that tried to email to my opensuse.org address had their email rejected, because antispam measures on transit failed with the aliasing, bouncing back the email. I forget the name of the feature, but I simply had to stop using my opensuse.org alias. (Yes, I opened a ticket for this years ago, no answer).
Do you have the number of that ticket? I have not been using my opensuse alias much, but I have never had any issues with it. I use my computer.org alias for practically everything, no problems there either. (of course, forwarded mails from domains with SPF records are occasionally identified as spam, but it's no big deal).
#4876 Subject: [openSUSE admin - tickets #4876] (New) Fwd: [opensuse-project] opensuse mail redirection problem Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 20:21:40 +0000 +++...................... Two people (one an Alpine developer) have complained to me that they can not send email to me on my opensuse.org alias, because it gets bounced to them with this message from from a suse.de server (or so they claim): ....... The mail system <robin...@telefonica.net> (expanded from <carlos...@opensuse.org>): host tnetmx.telefonica.net[86.109.99.69] said: 522 - Failed SPF (in reply to MAIL FROM command) ....... I have been told that the solution is for opensuse.org is to implement SRS, so the ball is on your side. Another solution is to replace the redirector with a real mail service — for instance, the IEEE replaced the ieee.org redirector with google group services (I'm unsure of the exact naming). ......................++- and more text. I can forward to you the whole post if you wish.
The solution for all this is not using an alias, but a real address.
I believe there is something afoot in this regard, but there is a cost involved. Having all the member mails forwarded to a dovecot machine is no big deal, but running that machine is no small effort.
Yes, that's true. I know that ieee.org is no longer an alias, but a real address at gmail. I don't know if they charge and how much. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)