To everyone, I'm sorry I created such a stir on this list. Fact is what ever I did to the sym link caused my problem to go away. So I'm happy. I know how to create a sym link, but still have questions on how to take it away.....DON'T WORRY THIS IS NOT A REQUEST....I'm going to test it out on my machine. Those that helped me I am thankful to for now I have a running opengroupware server running (for the most part). I'd like to request that this be dropped now for I don't want to create anymore ill feelings. Please note that if I ask a question I have tried to look it up or figure it out. There are things I figure out on a daily basis which I don't mention. (no, really it's the truth). I'm not as smart as most of you folks when it comes to some of this stuff and sometimes things just don't click. Anyway, thanks for the help and I hope we can put this to bed. Remember....only happy thoughts :-) -- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems, Inc. 1.805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com