On 2023-03-09 21:05, Bob Rogers wrote:
From: Felix Miata <>
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And yes, "they" originated from the DOS world in 1985-1986 as VDOS (visual shell for DOS), renamed Norton Commander for 1986 initial release, which was my first exposure.
Not true; the Wikipedia article cites DIRED from SAIL in 1974 and Neptune on the Xerox Alto from 1973-74 as predecessors [1]. I have used Emacs dired for ages myself; the point of all these TUI interfaces (which I don't think has been made in this thread) is that it makes interaction much faster than in point-and-click interfaces, once you learn the keystrokes.
That's true, but it is not the only thing. File copy operation, or file delete operations, for instance, are faster because updating a text display is usually faster than updating a GUI display, as the program does its job behind the display.
And the point of integration with Emacs, my primary computer interface, should be self-explanatory. ;-}
I have never been happy with the emacs interface, nor vi's.
-- Bob Rogers http://www.rgrjr.com/
[1] So giving DOS credit here is in the same league as saying that Bill Gates invented the computer mouse. :-/
Well, I never heard of those ancient predecessors. My first computer I owned was a MsDOS / DR DOS PC. Or maybe a TI-57. However, I'm not sure those predecessors were OFMs, whereas the MsDOS tools were. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)