On Wednesday 21 May 2008 20:46:48 Washington Irving wrote:
Jim Henderson wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2008 19:28:09 -0400, Washington Irving wrote:
And that's the problem... there's NO indication to those unfamiliar to Linux that KDE 4 is still alpha-quality.
Having looked at the screenshot Stefan posted of the installer, I'd have to disagree. "Less mature" tells me that maybe I wouldn't want to select it unless I'm adventurous; in addition, the 3.5 release says it's mature and stable.
"Less Mature" is not fair warning that KDE 4 is still in alpha stage.
So, if you want a mature & stable desktop, pick KDE3.5, if you want the new technologies in 4.0 (which aren't enumerated, so anyone who wants to know what those are is going to have to do some research), then pick 4.0.
The more I look at this screen, the more I understand the developer's point of view. Could it be clarified and pointed out as alpha/beta software? Sure, but then after KDE4 releases, those installing 11 will still have the impression that KDE4 is in alpha/beta state during the installation, and maybe wouldn't choose it once it has matured and stabilized.
KDE 4 won't be Beta until summer -- which means it will be released sometimes next winter...probably about the same time as SUSE 11.1
I can kinda see the point in leaving the wording neutral
regarding the current development state because the state changes over time, but a DVD doesn't.
Put yourself in the position of a small-businessman, who is trying out openSUSE to see if he wants to commit to putting SLED and/or SLES in his business.
Is getting screwed over by some pie-in-the-sky insistance that no warning about KDE 4's current state...which is not anywhere close to released quality as assessed by the...a good thing or a bad thing. devs themselves....
Jim
What aught to be put there and may well be in some other cases is that "kde4 is included for evaluation only and may contain bugs". Thanks to Gates most people know what that means. It should also be a start up option not an install to the exclusion of everything else. :) I tried a gnome install of one of their latest release apps on kde under 10.3 86_64. If my eye's didn't deceive me it wanted both older and newer dependencies. Could be that 3. is the only one worth using. John -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org