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On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 11:56, Timothy R. Butler wrote:
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Have you ever attempted to install windows - any version - on hardware where you didn't have the CD that came with the hardware? Linux - any
Yes. Windows 98, Windows 2k, and *choke* Windows XP RC 1. They worked most of the time, especially Windows 2k and XP.
It is supported by the driver CDs that came with the hardware. Without that you, and the hardware, is fscked!
If you think that's the case, you really need to install a copy of Windows. When I say this, I am not saying it because I like Windows, just that thinking this is the case will get us no where. If you take a one or two year old PC, the type I usually am installing Linux on, and install Windows 2000 or Windows XP on it - it will most likely run without the need of ANY extra drivers.
I have tried to install NT,2K and Xp on machines that had hardware on the MS HCL and they would not work without driver CD's. I have had the install complete only to give me the BSOD upon reboot with MS drivers. You may have had better luck than me and the others that I was working with. :-)
Completely irrelevant. How many times will xclock fail you after an install? Or hangman (from bsd-games.rpm)? Please compare apples with apples. If you don't get X to work then xclock won't run, that's true, but if you don't have the graphics driver CD for windows, then MS Paint won't run either.
I was just making a have hearted comparison. Better example - Internet Explorer has always worked when Windows finished installing (whether that is good or bad, I'll leave up to you. ;-)).
Hmmmm....Jury is out on this one.
Sure, you get a basic 320x200, but you can do that in X too. My point is: linux installers at this point in time are BETTER, not equal.
For the most part I agree, you'll notice I was not arguing about that. I was arguing that if a piece of hardware does not work on one distro but works on the other distro, that that is a Bad Thing. (tm) This is something that was questioned a few miles back in this thread.
So true. Points of interjection. You stated about the public not wanting to read the manuals. This is true however, THEY NEED TO!!! Linux ix different than MS and the manuals are there to help the user along to at least get up to speed with Linux to at least a beginners level. If not, then they are going to get frustrated and not want to use it or bad mouth it. You want to keep comparing Linux to Windows and they are 2 different creatures! Yes if there is any problems with the distro, then let the developer know! They do not have all the anwsers either. Bugs and other issues are the reason why this group exists! So you can get help with the problem that is at hand. There are many talanted people here that will try and assisst anyone who asks nicely from newbie to power geek. I am personally glad that you found a distro that works well for you. Even though I cannot get my Voodoo 4 to work correctly, I'm still going to keep asking for help until I get it to work. Marshall Heartley A+,Network+ "Nothing is impossible, We just do not have all the anwsers yet to make the impossible possible"
-Tim
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