On 9/16/22 10:43, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2022-09-16 19:27, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
On 2022-09-16 11:05, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2022-09-16 19:03, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2022-09-16 15:55, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
On 2022-09-16 03:59, David C. Rankin wrote:
Will the openSUSE update to 102 make use of our current folders? I seem to recall the upgrade creates a new profile that doesn't include all your past materials, settings and folders. If I recall, (and I still have that install in /opt), upon start it had you create a new profile and basically start from scratch.
Still using the same profile here, all my folders are present, and mail filters seem to be working properly.
I get new icons, and one account gone. I'm posting with another one.
The account definition is there, but it doesn't display any folder from it (unified folder view).
Exit Th, start it again, and account is back. Phew!
OK, makes sense. Since a restart is always necessary, I had exited TBird before applying the upgrade.
I needed 2 restarts.
- First I exited TH. - Then make a backup of TH. - Then update, which included a kernel update. - Reboot. - start Th, have a look. Folders for this account were gone. - Close and start Th, folders for this account were back.
Discussions like this thread really frost me with outrage. Back in the days when I was studying Computer Science, one of the cardinal rules of software engineering we were taught was - "Never Never Never destroy user data! Don't even touch it without first backing it up (for the user also) and be ready to restore software and data if anything goes wrong. And design it so users can recover as well, with good guides." If software engineers and programmers approach software design with that paradigm in mind, it makes a huge difference in how one designs and writes software so that it can recover gracefully from errors and bugs. Wonder what software engineers and designers are taught these days, it's sad that a lot of software no longer follows the rules I was taught as good software practices. There is simply no excuse for a Thunderbird upgrade to destroy any user data, and that data should be treated as if it's destruction could be life threatening, because losing an email could well be! Users backing up their data is only a second line of defense, the primary responsibility belongs to the software engineers and designers and if they are unwilling to follow good engineering standards on software development, then they should be removed from the project(s) they are working on. There are lots of good books on best practices and processes to follow in order to produce solid software, I know because I have read a lot of them over the course of my career. (I'm now retired) IMHO of course, and in the opinion of a lot of my teachers and co-workers! Marc... -- *"The Truth is out there" - Spooky* *_ _ . . . . . . _ _ . _ _ _ _ . . . . _ . . . . _ _ . _ _ _ . . . . _ _ . _ . . _ . _ _ _ _ . _ . _ . _ . _ . * Computers: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the user Marc. His mission: to explore strange new hardware. To seek out new software and new applications. To boldly go where no Marc has gone before! (/This email is digitally signed and the OpenPGP electronic signature is added as an attachment. If you know how, you can use my public key to prove this email indeed came from me and has not been modified in transit. My public key, which can be used for sending encrypted email to me also, can be found at - https://keys.openpgp.org/search?q=marc@marcchamberlin.com or just ask me for it and I will send it to you as an attachment. If you don't understand all this geek speak, no worries, just ignore this explanation and ignore the OpenPGP signature key attached to this email (it will look like gibberish if you open it) and/or ask me to explain it further if you like./)