On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 20:03:13 +0100 Richard Brown <RBrownCCB@opensuse.org> wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 at 20:53, Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
Then I'm afraid that we must advise people to install the traditional way with a separate /home partition, not a subvolume.
I do not see the sense, at all, to advise users to use a seperate /home partition to facilitate an upgrade approach which we do not recommend, document, consider in our packaging and tooling, nor test (or in other words..support).
One of the longstanding reasons for using linux, and before that unix, is that one is not tied to a particular school of thought, but is rather instead offered a toolkit to apply to one's own circumstances to the best of one's ability and knowledge.
We have had seamless in place upgrade via both the media-based "Upgrade" workflow and the online "zypper dup" workflow for well over a decade now
Users should be using it and should not be reinstalling from scratch. I do not think we should optimise for this edge case.
You may think so, and I do, but many people do not agree.
Many people are wrong, I'd rather we optimise to support the ones who are right.
Optimise by all means but not at the expense of making the system brittle towards alternative possible ways of proceeding. Ultimate optimisation of infrequent events such as upgrades is not important.
In fact, I always install with a separate "/home" partition in order to be able to do just that: format "/" during fresh install if/when needed leaving "/home" with all my valuable data intact. I almost always upgrade instead, but if the upgrade crashes beyond repair, it is nice to have the alternative.
And with snapshots enabled I consider your above to be redundant
And there you go; optimising too far already. Perhaps the user is not using a filesystem that is capable of snapshots, or for whatever reason has chosen not to enable them. Unless of course you are saying that it is compulsory to use a snapshot-capable filesystem with snapshots enabled? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org