On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, Michael Hasenstein wrote:
BjXrn Tore Sund wrote:
This is good and useful advice. Thanks. I'll have a look at it. On the other hand, you do not address my complaints about the problems with yast{1,2}.
All I can do is forward them, I've nothing whatsoever to do with SuSE Linux development. I'm the major Oracle guy around here, that's all...
Then I'm sorry. I saw the suse.com address, and threw myself at someone who responded. It's the first time I've had answers to questions I've put to the list...
And as I go along, I'm noticing more and more problems, introduced with SuSE 7.0. Whoever concocted the idea of moving the package docs, for instance? All of a sudden /usr/doc/packages was empty, and everything
That's the LSB standard. In order to be compliant we had to move them.
So others have explained. And I don't mind the change. I mind them not being properly flagged. Any changes that means people who do their own config-files need to change them, must be printed in releases notes. Now I tested the installation on a couple of computers first. If I hadn't, I'd have been stuck with a system where my documentation web server wouldn't have worked immediately, out-of-the-box. I need to know before I install, so I can have updated config-files ready when I do the upgrade.
Going from SuSE 6.4 to SuSE 7.0 is going to be a lot of work for me. So much that I'm considering sticking with 6.4 and just continuing to upgrade the kernel and any software SuSE provides on the ftp sites. The latter is an excellent service, as long as you ignore the web page listing the up- grades.
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I'm also just a user - although one with @suse.de as email address - and I've always found those pages very useful. What is it you don't like about them?
It's been months since I checked them, and the reason I stopped was that i realised they were only updated several weeks after the packages were actually out on the ftp site. These days, I simply check the ftp site every two weeks or so, as well as after security announcements.
Anyway, I've just upgraded my machine as well, and don't see any difficulties. Of course, for a sysadmin with lots of machines and services that may look differently.
We have very different criteria. And I find myself looking for very different things when I install on my home computer and my own work station at work. With those, I can fiddle, test, and take the time to give the individual machine lots of attention, to make it happy. I can't do that with thirty machines. Hmmm. I never noticed the parallel with raising a child/handling a kindergarten group before. :)
I wouldn't use APM on my servers. On the other hand, I find being able to shut klient machines _completely_ off with 'shutdown -h' very handy. I also hope to get support in apmd for suspending the monitor. For both of these things, as I understand it, the APM kernel is necessary.
Not if you run X. X can do that...
Suspend the monitor? If it can, I haven't figured it out. What X certainly cannot do, is power-off the machine after a shutdown -h. Bjørn -- Bjørn Tore Sund Phone: (+47) 555-84894 Nothing gives such Sysadmin, Mathematics dept. Fax: (+47) 555-89672 weight and dignity University of Bergen Mobile: (+47) 918 68075 to a mail as a properly system@mi.uib.no Email: bjornts@mi.uib.no formatted .signature with a good quote. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq