On Sat, Dec 28, 2002 at 02:40:52AM +0000, netsec novice wrote: : If I issue the command 'syslog-ng start' from the command line in : /etc/init.d syslog-ng appears to start with no errors. Help? And you're wondering why syslogd & klogd are still running? There are a few issues at play here. Here's what I've found (eg done): /etc/init.d/syslog-ng never touches syslogd. Thus, you'll always have both daemons running. 8( The simple fix it to remove syslog via chkconfig/insserv. B/c of some dependency issues, you'll have to forcefully remove it "chkconfig -f syslog off". That's not really a since after all, you'll be running syslog-ng. So, that leaves klogd. The default /etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf isn't configured to handle the kern facility, thus klogd is needed. If you're using you own custom syslog-ng that handles kern then set "SYSLOG_NG_REPLACE" to "no" in /etc/sysconfig/syslog-ng. Yeah, I know that this seems counter-intuitive, but it's how the startup script parses things. That should give you the expected behavior. --Jerry Open-Source software isn't a matter of life or death... ...It's much more important than that!