On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Rodney Baker <rodney.baker@iinet.net.au> wrote:
Can we please get one thing straight? You *don't* need to use the build service to get KDE 4.2.2 on 11.0, 11.1 or even 10.3. If you enable the correct repositories in Yast and you can install it from there (and I suspect have many fewer problems with packaging, updates etc).
Sorry? Then why is it called: openSUSE BuildService - KDE4:Factory:Desktop That says buildservice above from what I can read. The URL you are using may be the right one, but when you fire up YaST and go to the Community Repos, it's called BuildService.
I've been using KDE 4 since 4.0.4 (OK, call me an early adopter; it wasn't really useful until 4.1.3) and 4.2.2 is stable, usable and does everything that *I* used to do with KDE 3.5 (which I actually don't miss at all now), and that includes running Quanta (the KDE 3.5.9 version - I never upgraded to 3.5.10). BTW I use ftp for uploading, not fish (ftp is required by the web hosting service).
Correct, it works for you. It just doesn't work for everyone, nor is it stable for everyone even now.
For info, I currently get my KDE 4.2.2. from KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop (http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openSU...) and I've not had a problem with it since upgrading from 4.2.1 to 4.2.2. I also have KDE4-ExtraApps-Factory enabled (http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Extra- Apps/openSUSE_11.0).
See that "Factory" in that url? Factory repos aren't officially supported, so that turns off a lot of people. Maybe not myself or you, but it does to some.
My machine is not particularly high-spec either (by current standards): Athlon XP 2600 (1.8GHz real speed), 1GB RAM, NVidia GeForce FX5500 running 173.14.12 drivers, ASUS NForce2 motherboard running 11.0. I also run it on 2 laptops - 1 is a Celeron M 1.3GHz with 1.2GB RAM and Intel 855 on-board graphics (still running 10.3), the other a Core-2 Duo 2.4GHz with 2GB Ram and Intel 945 on-board graphics (also running 11.0) - it flies on that one :-).
I'm running 11.0/KDE3 on a Thinkpad X21/P3/700/384MB/ATI Mobility M3/4MB. My Thinkpad A22p is P3/1Ghz/256MB/ATI Mobility M3/8MB. Way under what your specs are. I can't get more RAM in either machine. The X21 is maxed and the A22p has a bad RAM slot and ONLY accepts 256MB sticks. But they browse the web just fine and play movies just fine(The A22p has a 1600x1200 screen), and I can use KWord for docs just fine. Sure, they're a little slow, but definately usable for what I use them for. KDE4 on the A22p was much slower than KDE3 and used as much if not more RAM. Early results looked good, but after I checked several times after they were both running for a while, the difference in RAM was bascially nil. Now, that could be because they were/are using some libraries from each system. I know that the kde-sysguard and the network manager are both KDE4 based in 11.0 even under KDE3. I also use Firefox for browsing, so that is probably my biggest RAM usage. I'm also running a Celeron E1200 @ 3.2Ghz(completely stable) with an nVidia 6200(not overclocked) PCIe adapter and 2GB RAM(DDR2-800 @ 1000). I haven't tried the newest KDE4 due to all the problems I have seen with the video drivers. I had a hard drive fail in this machine a couple of weeks ago, and just did a fresh install of 11.0 with no KDE4. But, when I did have KDE4 installed, it was noticably slower than KDE3 with either the open drivers or the "tainted" drivers from nVidia. Like I said before, I just don't see anything in KDE4 I find remotely compelling. So long as KDE3 works and performs as well as KDE4 or better, I will stick with it. I know someone who still uses WIndows95 and some Mac guys who use OS 9.2.2 with no problems. Once I see an easy to use feature that lets me turn off all the crap after first startup, I'll put KDE4 through it's paces. I could care less about every bit of what KDE4 has created - Widgets, Plasmoids, taking away my desktop, glitz, bling, and all that other stuff. Some like it, some don't. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org