On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 08:19 -0500, Jon Nelson wrote:
On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Hartmut Meyer wrote:
Hi,
On Wednesday 01 June 2005 14:51, Jon Nelson wrote:
That's the one I meant.
I know it is confusing and many people belive that this module is meant to do an update of the running system from one release to the next, but it is not.
Did you read the manual? It's chapter 2.3.4 "System Update" (SUSE Linux 9.2) in the big Admin manual.
What /is/ it there for, then, anyway? I don't have any manuals handy, and I sure as hell don't carry them around with me.
There should be a copy installed on the PC.
Saying "Read the Manual" is, quite frankly, about the lamest response I've heard in a long time.
It's not relevant whether I've read the manual or not. That's like saying a button in your car labeled "Heat" doesn't really produce heat but just redirects exhaust into the cabin. Yeah, you might get warm, but there are unintended side effects. Is it a labeling issue? Should the option even /be/ there? SuSE's inability to upgrade a running system is a very serious shortcoming, and apparently one dictated not by technical feasability. Honestly I'm rather disappointed with that aspect of SuSE. They cannot and will not gain meaningful market share if they can't improve installation and upgrades, an issue which has been a problem for SuSE for as long as I can remember! IMO Debian has, far and away, the best upgrade mechanism available - at one point I had upgraded seemlessly (all while "online" I might add) an installation whose initial install dated back 3 major versions!
Then why don't you stop using SuSE and use Debian and stop ranting here about some function you haven't read about? Or is that how you run all of your systems, let me click on this and see what happens.
Furthermore, the fact that I'm not the only one that has hit upon this problem suggests that it /is/ a problem. Saying "did you read the manual" is a total cop-out.
If manuals were nothing more than "a total cop-out" and unnecessary as you say why do all software companies supply docs in some form or another? They are there for when something does not work as "expected" so you can see what the actual use is. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge