Eric Lee Green wrote:
On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, Juergen Braukmann wrote:
Eric Lee Green wrote:
A little more attention to enterprise-scale features, and I'd unhesitantly recommend it for large-scale deployments. Here's some things that need to be considered for enterprise-scale deployments: 1) Routine maintenance tasks need to be distributable across the network without editing script files. Red Hat's /etc/cron.hourly, /etc/cron.daily, /etc/cron.weekly, and /etc/cron.monthly are such a means of doing this. I can use "rdist" or equivalent and zap out
is this a problem?? you *can* alter / create entries in /etc/crontab
Across 1,000 machines, each of which may also have local crontab alterations? As you state, it is not a problem of individual deployments. However, for enterprise-wide deployments, it *IS* a problem.
All Red Hat did was add a script that'll execute all the scripts in a directory, add this to /etc/crontab, and voila. Now I can send out something to happen on a daily basis (e.g., I have a particular application where I want the application's password to change on a daily basis, due to security reasons) without bothering the contents of any file on the system.
yes, I see the advantage. good idea though. but at the end of the day you'd install all these scripts on all those machines. I can see your point. never met anybody that *does* admin that number of machines and want's them to run Linux. ;-)) But, in the end that's what our sysops complain about: all used unices are a bit different and it would be so nice if.....
if we are talking about that, we have to keep in mind that there are standards set in unix world that should be reached (by all unices).
I don't care about standards. I care about getting the job done. Standards are supposed to help in that. If parts of a standard hinder that, then it is the standard that is wrong, not me.
good words, right opinion. this reflects *just* my opinion about some things that I have to work with and cannot change. The *very good* thing about Linux is, that you realy cannot discuss with destructive arguments, since everybody has the sources, pices, packages etc and can customise it to his/her own liking. Following this discussion has given me some constructive input to think about. I belive, Hubert / Lenz will forward this to feedback@suse.com, were it belongs. Without feedback no further developement.
passes 100. Many of these features were added to Red Hat 4.0 as the result of feedback from people like me, people who were managing
yes, that's true. try that with the "other" OS. ;-)
You're joking, right? :-).
Yes I was. The other OS is not an real OS anyway... ;-)) freely spoken, if an OS is developed that you can *work* with it and applications for it you have a "work station". If a prime directive for the "OS" developement is to play video games on it, you have a "play station". Therefor the "OS" cannot be an OS, exept it's written by nintendo. ;-) Jürgen -- ========================================== __ _ Juergen Braukmann mail: brauki@cityweb.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb@db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu| /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ==========================================_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e