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It would appear that on Sep 15, Dave Howorth did say:
As well as using the zypper command-line tool are you aware that you can also use YaST without having X running? There is an ncurses version called 'yast' whilst the X GUI version is 'yast2'.
Yeah but when I use yast {even with the X gui version} it REALLY confuses me. NONE of it's interface is intuitive to me. If I was going to use a gui, I'd want something a LOT more like synaptic... But really though I'm more comfortable with CLI as long as there is some sanity checking (like with zypper when it tells me what it's about to do and gives me a chance to say "NO" Or with Sabayon's equo does as long as I remember to use the --ask switch... Its so much easier to use copy/paste from my notes to the command line with CLI. But thanks for the info. It would appear that on Sep 15, Marcus Meissner did say:
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 11:31:19AM -0400, J(tWdy)P wrote:
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Whereas zypper patch (without args) will install all needed patches (which will sometimes even remove existing software and WILL change the package vendor if needed. (I suspect that it will even downgrade a package if necessary. And that it won't touch any packages outside the scope of the patch involved...)
No, that would be "zypper dup".
zypper patch uses the updateinfo/patch meta information to update the packages according to the patches we have in our update repository.
It will not do vendor changes, downgrades or deinstalls.
Only zypper "dup" aka "distribution upgrade" does.
So in order of aggressiveness:
- zypper patch only official updates - zypper up updates with all available package updates, no vendor change or downgrade. (includes "patch" parts too)
- zypper dup try to move the system to the state reflected by the repositories. useful for switching to a new distro, or following openSUSE Factory.
Thanks. So I'm thinking I'll just use zypper up most of the time with an occasional zypper dup when there are getting to be too many packages listed as NOT being updated... It would appear that on Sep 15, Greg Freemyer did say:
And here's the instructions for doing a version upgrade:
Thanks... That looks like a great how-to. One concern, it seems to advise to only use a limited few repos for the zypper dup step, and that having too many could lead to a failed upgrade. But what happens to software installed with 11.3 versions of repos for which I haven't installed the 11,4 versions of??? Things like my enlightenment desktop come to mind... It wouldn't uninstall it on me if I didn't include the 11.4 version of download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/Enlightenment/openSUSE_11.4/ And if I didn't include: download.opensuse.org/repositories/games/openSUSE_11.4/ would it be likely to uninstall a lot of games??? -- | ~^~ ~^~ | <?> <?> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | \___/ <<jtwdyp@ttlc.net>> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org