Hi, since a couple of weeks always when i try to shutdown my tumbleweed (not actual updated, so an update is not the case of the problem) a delay for the shutdown: "a stop job is running for session 3 of user simon" i am user "simon" and i have before closed kde regularly with the shut down option and nothing left open. its a "normal" desktop kde system, with connections to and from it, inside the lan over nfs and sometimes over ssh. but the most times 3 tumbleweed computers who are running inside this lan who have theoretically access, i and my wife are the operators, so nobody should have "logged in" when i shut down. from outside the internet there should be nothing open to come in to the lan. how could i investigate what is here "session3" and still running? thanks, simoN -- www.becherer.de