On Monday 21 August 2006 03:33, suse@rio.vg wrote:
second machine. (Though I don't like the actual install steps in Ubuntu as much, especially since they leave out several important steps like deciding what packages you want to initially install, for instance, YaST is much better)
Agreed. On the other hand, i liked that it "just did it" and i had complete control over what i wanted to install afterwards (a painless process, as it turns out).
Running the YaST installer inside a live-cd environment would be a nifty feature for SuSE.
Amen. Though the ubuntu live-installer crashed on me late in the process, with a backtrack and a link to a "submit a bug" page. Of course, you need an account to enter a bug, so the link was pretty useless unless you're an existing kubuntu user because at that point in the process you don't have email set up and therefor can't create an account under which to register the bug.
If you liked Adept, Synaptic is even better, in my opinion.
i'll give it a try.
install some package, it doesn't have to run the full update from every source and download the massive repodatas three times over or spend several minutes crunching away at who knows what. It just gets the package you asked for and installs it, along with dependencies.
Amen.
For package management, the apt systems are the best I've ever seen. (though fou4s is still the best update system mankind has ever produced)
i'm not familiar with it, and first heard of it a few days ago here on the list.
In several other areas, Ubuntu still has a ways to go. Their repo system can sometimes be a bit odd, like what's the real difference between "Universe" and "Multiverse"
Universe == "the majority of the Free Software universe..." Multiverse == "software which has been classified as non-free" http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/extra-repositories.html
and there is certainly no consistent configuration system like YaST.
That's one of Suse's strongest differentiating points, IMO.
And, maybe someone else knows why, but SuSE 10.1 comes with a version of ALSA that does mixing. I mean, you run multiple programs (not through arts or esd) that connect to ALSA and it lets them both output sound. Ubuntu doesn't have that. I like being able to pull up things like RealPlayer while playing music through something else, or still have warning sounds go off or even while playing a game with ePSXe. It's really nice.
Eeek - that means that i'll have to turn off skype while watching videos. :( Oh well. -- ----- stephan@s11n.net http://s11n.net "...pleasure is a grace and is not obedient to the commands of the will." -- Alan W. Watts