On 11/06/18 22:14, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 10/06/18 09:08 PM, Simon Lees wrote:
after all its not hard to subscribe to a second list and this gives users more choice in what emails they receive.
Indeed, and given the power of modern email systems and handling it is not hard to set up filters. As others have pointed out, many did that back in the days when lists carried many times the volume that this one does today.
Personally I consider these meta-discussion to be every bit as important, if not more, than the technical Q&A, which might be more appropriate on a StackExchange model than a mailing list.
Sorry, Simon, I'm not a reductionist, I'm not obsessive-compulsive. I consider the "social niceties' to be the cushion that makes the brutality of computers and information processing liveable.
Yep i'm well aware of mail filters, I use them extensively I get 10k+ email a month, its very easy to write a filter that puts opensuse-support@ emails in a support folder and another one that puts opensuse@ emails into a discussion folder, what is somewhat harder is creating filters that read a subject line and go this is support or this is general discussion, especially when threads on this list seem to regularly wander from being a support topic to a general discussion one. I like many people enjoy the social niceties of being part of the openSUSE community, I have made many good friends here and I don't think that it should stop, its just that many people are social in many different ways and would rather the social and the support be separated in terms of mailing lists so they can be part of one and not the other. On irc which i'm much more familiar with then our support lists we have always had a very strict rule that the support channel is only for support and if you want to chat we have a separate chat channel for those who want to be a part of it, personally I think a similar approach to these mailing lists makes sense, which is partly why I voted for a support@ mailing list, for me into the future there is still a question of naming, in my mind maybe opensuse@ would be better linking to the opensuse-project@ mailing list and this list should become opensuse-chat@ or similar personally i'm not sure which is best and I don't care enough to raise it as an issue with the board that we should change right now. But personally I think it would be good to keep a semi social general discussion list of some form available to the community because there is obviously a part of the community that uses and enjoys it. -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B