Hi all, This is probably off topic, but a number of contributers to this forum have often quoted Miguel in their signatures. I email Ximian to check out the quote and received this reply from Miguel de Icaza. I'm forwarding it FYI. Still keeping the faith, Tom , in _ usually _ sunny_ balmy Florida's First Coast. ><><>< An advertising executive once said "Creativity is like shaving - if you don't do it every day, you're a bum!" -Phil Cooke, Keys To Convergence: The Next Step in the Digital Age ><><>< ______________________________________________________________________ Registered Linux user # 308709. Using SuSE Linux and Ximian Gnome since May, 2000. web page ~ http://www.cntr4appldchristianity.com email ~beesknees@earthlink.net ______________________________________________________________________