On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 15:41, Larry Stotler <larrystotler@gmail.com> wrote:
To begin, I rarely post on these lists anymore mainly because of attitudes like yours that state that I shouldn't have my own opinion and that I shouldn't share it since no one here seems to care.
There is a BIG difference between having differing opinions and simply moaning about "it's different and that's scary" like some people have been doing. Calling it BUGDE is not helping.. it's just being stupid and childish. Moaning and wailing about some missing feature until the rest of us are dead tired of it all while the moaner pruposely ignores the kde.org bug that is open on the missing feature, and ignoring all progress towards restoring that feature, is not having a differing opinion... it's just stirring the proverbial pot and trying to drum up as much trouble as possible. You are welcome to have your own opinon. You're welcome to use KDE3... that's exactly why there is a community sponsored KDE3 build for openSUSE11.2
came out. KDE4 is a completely different philosophy and design than any KDE preceding it, and needless to say many of us aren't happy with the change.
Many? Some? How do you quantify that? So far, everyone I know personally that's tried KDE4 likes it. A few people have jumped from Windows to Linux because of KDE4. So it's not all bad. That's not to say it doesn't have issues, but... that's what the bug reports are for, and hey look.. features are being added back and/or fixed based on bug reports.
of that freedom is that we have a right to disagree with the direction the distro and it's underlying code has taken. I've make several requests so that those of us who want an easy way to turn off the new bling have one, like porting KPersonalizer over. I don't code, so I can't do it. I never heard if anything was done along those lines.
New bling (transparencies, rotating desktops etc) is easy to turn off... there's a default keyboard shortcut... Shift+Alt+F12.. or you can click on the check box in in the desktop settings and it's off.
I have just as much right to offer advice of my preferred solution of using 11.0/KDE3.5
Yup... And I also point people at the KDE3 solution when that is what they want. You're more than welcome to do that. The snarky comments from others earlier in this thread are NOT doing that.
So far I have seen ZERO compelling reasons to use KDE4.
As I see ZERO compelling reasons to use Gnome, or Windowmaker... but you don't see the KDE users (usually anyway) calling down hatred and trolling in posts that are about Gnome do you? Do you see anyone calling XFCE, BUGFCE? or some other stupid name? If someone does, it's rare.
The KDE team may realize how much stuff they removed was actually used at some point. Till then, well, we shall have to agree to disagree.
And they do realise it.... check the hundreds of feature bugs that have been fixed or are targeted to be fixed. It's rather nice to see how many (missing) feature requests have been picked up by the KDE devs. Yah they could have managed the rollout of KDE4 better... but it's done, and it's being cleaned up. Anyway, my point is... productive banter is good... mindless wailing about stuff that's missing or not right and purposely ignoring the progress/accepted/planned features in the bug reports is not good, and frankly, it's tiresome. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org