I have some files that I cannot delete, even as root. They started their life as part of my Palm device's backups, being created by the JPilot backup plugin. However, after a Palm crash during a sync, I was left with a "cannot delete ... files, please delete manually" error. When trying, I get permission denied to do an ls -la on these directories as root, and my filer shows the owner and group as -1, and the permissions for each file as "---,---,---/---", which I suspect results from the same error. Most of the files were deleted OK, but there are about 6 left in each directory that I can't get rid of. Any ideas? TiA John -- John Pettigrew Headstrong Games john@headstrong-games.co.uk Fun : Strategy : Price http://www.headstrong-games.co.uk/ Board games that won't break the bank Knossos: escape the ever-changing labyrinth before the Minotaur catches you!