Anton Aylward wrote:
I was shocked when I first saw some of the heavy processing going on, not least of all putting the syslog records in a relational database so that all manner of analysis can be done, time trends and such like, that simply isn't possible with reports by email.
Like I said - syslog is for audit trails and post-mortem analysis - email and SNMP are more for the real-time alert. [big snip about email - I didn't quite get your point]
System control rather than simply passive monitoring is another matter. network components such as routers and switches report by syslog and SNMP, but syslog is a reporting mechanism not a controlling mechanism. If you want to expand this to control then pleas change the subject line. At present it says "monitor".
No, this is not about controlling.
Which distro were you running? Maybe it was a better option for you.
SunOS back when, Solaris; UNIX V6 and V7 when I was a kernel hacker, SYSIII, SYSV Berkeley BSD 2.4 though 2.8 and 4.0 though 4.1; AIX from the beginning through to current; man versions of HP/UX; DG/UX; many now defunct versions of microprocessor "unix" not least of all SCO's XENIX, including the ports of it by HCR to various platforms. I even had one spell using Zeus on a machine running the Zilog Z-8001 processor though I thought the Onyx version on their box much more fun. I *like* AIX but can't afford it it home. I've run a number of versions of Linux over the last decade and half, but have little interest in switching back and forth.
Well, I have difficulty in believing that Solaris, AIX and HPUX all manage perfectly well without postfix/sendmail/exim/<anyMTA>, but I don't have enough experience with those to contradict you. Still, why don't you run openSolaris if that does what you want?
I'm curious though, how did you manage to receive the various systems alerts and messages without a local MTA? Did you write your own /usr/sbin/sendmail to drop the text directly into the filesystem?
You are failing to differentiate between how I have configured systems and how I thing a system for a variety of different contexts should be allowed to be configured to suit the needs of that context.
You stated very clearly that "before I installed openSUSE none of my non-mail hub machines and in the specific not my laptop or desk workstation ran Postfix, exim, sendmail or other such MTA.". I'm only asking how you did it, that's all. /Per -- /Per Jessen, Zürich -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org