On Wed, 27 Apr 2005, Michael W Cocke wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:59:19 -0700, you wrote:
I've been watching the happenings on the message boards recently with regards to SuSE 9.3. It seems like it's more bleeding edge and unstable than usual.
Then you haven't been paying attention. It's 'bleeding edge and unstable' if you choose to disregard common sense. I've got it on 2
What does that mean? I'm just reading the Usenet group and the message boards and reading about all kinds of problems. It's anecdotal, but come on. Not everyone who has a bug with SuSE is an idiot. Sometimes the system is actually at fault.
systems so far, including a production email server. One relatively minor problem, to which the solution was already posted here. The performance improvement over 9.1 and 9.2 is fantastic! I'm actually looking forward to upgrading my file server. 8-)>
That's good to hear. However, I'm going to wait and see. Like I said, what I'm reading isn't good. Especially with regards to problems with OpenOffice 2.0 (which last I heard is still beta). Putting major versions of software like this into the distro when their beta seems like a bad idea. And people are having problems with it.
Of course, I've never tried to 'update' a system - I follow the conventional wisdom (based on my own experiences) of doing a clean install of ANY operating system upgrade, whether it's windows, OS/2, linux, or DOS.
I didn't do an update. I updated Firefox via YOU.
And now I get a Firefox YOU update where my bookmarks and profile are broken. I can still get to my bookmarks, but I have to select "Bookmarks > Manage Bookmarks" then my bookmarks appear after having disappeared. They disappear next time I start Firefox back up. On top of that it doesn't properly recognize my profile, i.e. Firefox looks different than it should. Different X to close down tabs, etc.
You should probably be asking this question of the mozilla/firefox team, since the exact same thing happened to me when I upgraded (manually) from 1.0.2 to 1.0.3 on a SuSE 9.2 system, and a bit of investigation showed that it was because of a bug in 1.0.2 that 1.0.3 corrected...
YOU totally bi-passed 1.0.2 I believe. I don't find it in the RPM cache, at least. So this is something to do with the current update.
What is going on with Novell quality control? I'm a little concerned. In the short term I want Firefox to work again. In the long term I want to know that YOU isn't going to thrash my desktop for daily use. I can get that with Fedora if I want.
As far as I can see, if you pay attention to what's going on you should be fine. If you want to be oblivious, I suggest windows.
Oh please. I don't want oblivious. I can admin a Linux box. I can admin a FreeBSD box. I could do it all from source if I wanted to. But I'm a web and Java developer. I need my system to "just work". And that's why I pay SuSE the money. So it "just works". So excuse me if that's my expectation. It's not because I'm stupid or lazy. It's because there's a reason I pay for SuSE. And if they fall down on the job, then I could just run FreeBSD (well, except it has Java issues) or Fedora and tweak everything myself. Preston