Op 19-11-12 19:27, Patrick Shanahan schreef:
It's about being respectful of others and consideration, not about *your* time. *You* are imposing on other's time to solve *your* problems even thou the others are volunteering.
I volunteer my whole life, you can say that i am a professional volunteer. I realized things where others took the credits for, but i do not mind that: The job is done, and that is what counts. Dear patrick, you show me good tricks, things that work, you know that, and i know that. And fun i have most of the time, but hurry does not pay often.. Do things because you like to do them, or don't. Nobody is obligated to put time in me. I tested from 100 until 114. Contributed to the community, voluntarily. I have np with that.
And i have had, often and much, very good help here, no doubt about that. It is just that sometimes the trend is: We have to help, but we don't like to, so we put the 'asker of questions' down, and make him read, tons and tons of literature, because he will have nothing else to do, than come, and ask questions on this list... It you think that, your time is ill spent here and our's is completely wasted!
It is a nuance of the energy brought towards me... And if i thought my time would be ill spend here, why would i come here? I liked openSUSE very much, and did what i could to help for a very long time.. At this time i put in thoughts, as others do, not to be boss, but to show what is happening.. from another point of view.
But: This is not for all of them. Sometimes they get carried away, but some, really try to understand what you try to establish, and give plain and simple, true answers. I am not going to name anyone. Come'on now, call a spade a spade.
No, it is not necessary to call names. Nobody is the same, that is the beauty of it.
For me, i am sometimes in a hurry too. I want something, but that doesn't work the way i want, and i read and search, and before i know it the day is gone... An educations is usually time costly :^)
Sometimes extremely, and i want to take a shortcut, honest is honest: Guilty.
I used to repair cars when i was young. I was very good at it. I'd like to repair old English sports-cars. From that time, i remember that there was absolutely no use in reading the workshop engine repair-manual, unless for the job you actually were performing at that time, that specific section. Measurements, torques, order to take apart, or put together, that kind of stuff... You have to have the manuals handy at all times, that is true. But read them like that, is like reading a phone-book. Perhaps you would accomplish more with less embellishment of your posts and more staying to the *specific* subject. :^)
There is already enough accomplished today. Problem is solved.
Language deos not seem to be a problem, but comprehension and following directions does.
Yes, i have always had trouble with authority, you have seen that right ;-)
After all, it's about having *fun*.
That is true. I like to learn, but can only learn if it is necessary. My life is one of maintenance, if my powersupply goes down, i have to be there, day and night. Many years it took, to get it as reliable as possible, as it is now. Still things can break: a wire breakage, a relays... -- Have a nice day, Oddball. OS: Linux 3.7.0-rc5-2-desktop i686 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@EeePc-Rob-SFN9 Systeem: openSUSE 12.2 (i586) KDE: 4.9.3 "release 520" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org