On Friday 02 June 2006 00:59, Mark A. Taff wrote:
To summarize the previous discussion about apt and suse's package management:
1. The rpm packages for KDE updates have been removed from the apt repository at ftp.gwdg.de, with more packages to be removed in the near future. 2. Apt will not work with the opensuse build service. 3. The opensuse build service is *ALPHA* software. 4. An as-yet-unreleased future version of apt4suse might work with the opensuse build service. 5. Using packages from the opensuse build service will will tie you to the bugs and features of the version of KDE initially released with the version of suse (i.e. 10.1 users will be stuck with KDE 3.5.1, even though three additional bugfix, translation and new feature releases will have been released by this August--3.5.4 gets tagged at the end of July). 6. There is no equal or superior package-management program available for SuSE that could replace apt. Yast most certainly isn't, and from my research, neither smart nor yum are as capable as apt (though they might become so if missing features are added in future releases).
So not only has the best package management system been effectively killed without a suitable replacement, but future (and current SuSE KDE packages) SuSE packages will be a far lower quality (missing recent bugfixes, translations, etc). These are two core defects that are the core of what a distribution is supposed to do: provide software.
Note that I'm not placing blame for this situation on anybody; I'm just laying out the current situation. Please do correct any errors I made above. Meanwhile, I'm going to take Kubuntu for a spin around the block as a potential replacement.
Regards,
Mark
I know 10.1 is a big pile of trousers in reality but do you actually need all those darn package updaters that just cause hassle misery and most of all problems . The CLI is a very powerfull interface the "rpm" system is very useable IF you read the man pages and the builtin help system , You can save yourself a lot of heartache by learning and using the "cli" and "rpm" fully . The first thing i do on any Linux install once it is up fully is make certain i have access to "xterm" and "joe" (cant stand konsole and kedit) a little bit of reading saves a lot of bother . This is an Suse 9.2 machine once it becomes unusable i shall be looking for another distro to replace it with UNLESS ther have been some Major changes with the way Novell/Suse are heading it will not be a suse distro there is a mojor reverse in direction needed PRONTO Novell are already feeling the pinch keep this up and it will become terminal .. Pete . -- The Labour party has changed their emblem from a rose to a condom as it more accurately reflects the government's political stance. A condom allows for inflation, halts production, destroys the next generation, protects a bunch of pricks, and gives you a sense of security while you are actually being fucked. from GSM -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com