On Sun, 8 Dec 2002 04:07:17 +0100 (CET) "Carlos E. R." <robin1.listas@tiscali.es> wrote:
The 02.12.07 at 18:25, zentara wrote:
Yeah, I had trouble getting a user to run it too. sudo didn't seem to want to work with it. :-(
I convinced sux to run it later. I have to type:
sux -c /usr/X11R6/bin/ethereal
Yeah, that's because the path for root is real limited when you run sux.
I thought mail servers used challenge/response methods that do not need the password to be sent... No, I'm mistaken, that is PAP/CHAP for ppp, not for pop3. I think only one of my mail servers uses such a method, tiscali in fact (Capabilities: SASL CRAM-MD5 DIGEST-MD5 PLAIN). Another says "CAPABILITY STARTTLS IMAP4 IMAP4rev1 LITERAL+ AUTH=LOGIN AUTH=PLAIN AUTH=EXTERNAL", meaning plain password :-(
APOP does encrypt passwords, but not many ISP's use it. qpopper has APOP ability built-in and it works fine. I don't know why more ISP's don't allow it?
Of course, the messages themselves travel in clear, but if somebody gets my password he may steal my messages, or impersonate me.
Well the ISP's can still trace the origin of mails to the IP number who originated it, so it is wise to have a pop3 password that is different from your logon password. All this sloppiness in clear text passwords, will make it difficult for anyone to prove anything in court regarding emails, unless they have all the logon records, and phone logs.
In fact, what all that tracking may, and does, serve is for industrial and bussines spionage, by some countries on other countries. Any people involved in real subsersive work will use really sofisticated methods, like in the movies or John Le Carre novels.
I don't know about that anymore. There is a new government program here in the US, that wants to track each and every purchase you make online. Something about "anti-terrorism". I've learned 1 thing about the government, they only talk about it, 20 years after they've already done it. So they've probably been tracking all net traffic and scanning it for years. -- use Perl; #powerful programmable prestidigitation