On Wed, 2005-04-27 at 19:22 -0400, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Wednesday 27 April 2005 07:16 pm, Preston Crawford wrote:
This misses the point. It may work, but that isn't the SuSE way of doing things. So back to my original point. If SuSE is going to begin releasing software that's unstable, doesn't work, hasn't been tested or is in beta, what am I paying for exactly? I could just as easily get FreeBSD or Fedora for free and spend my $80 every 6 months (because I *usually* get every upgrade) on contributing to the free software project of my choice directly, instead of paying for software that is every bit as unstable as other free distributions.
I guess if you don't like it, leave it...
Is that the new SuSE mantra or just yours? I think SuSE wants to please the customers. If you think they should cop that attitude then we're certainly in trouble as users of SuSE Pro.
There's always a fine line between "giving people what they want" and trying to be totally stable. How many times have we seen the comment on this list about "why didn't they include the latest version of <nameyourpoison> in the current release?"
I think most people who use SuSE value stability. I know more people off this list than on this list who not only don't complain about SuSE, but run old versions around their house because it just works. So I think you're, once again, misrepresenting what the general SuSE user base expects and wants. I expect and want stability. Not new and flashy. I think most SuSE users are that way. If they wanted new and flashy they could go with Fedora or another Mandriva.
Learn this: They will never make everyone happy all of the time. You know that, I know that and Novell knows that. I am sure they are doing their best.
We'll see. Verdict is still out on that. All I know is that it's strange that my copy of SuSE 9.2 includes an old version of Mono (just fine by me) because it's stable, yet they're starting to include betas when perfectly usable stable versions are available. It's a trend I don't like.
I'm running the latest OO beta (.95) on 9.2 and loving it. So I am totally happy with what they have included. (even though I don't have 9.3 yet)
Life is tough. Deal with it.
How is this tough? It's not tough, it's just a bad choice on SuSE's part in my opinion. One I hope doesn't continue or else I'll have to go distro shopping. And I don't think I'm alone in that sentiment. Preston