Jon Pennington wrote:
On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Bobby Geortgilakis wrote:
<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html>
<br>Hi all, <p>I've had some feedback, that "many" (two actually so far....), on the list are HTML challenged & would like to check this out on the list proper. <p>So, is HTML a hassle to enalbe/read or are the plain text guys still stuck in the 1950's, not that is is the year 2000 or anything like that? ;-) <p>Greek Geek :-) <br> <p>Calligraphy rules! -- Greek Geek</html>
Actually, I am using a reasonably modern mail client (KMail), and I can't read this garbage without saving the message to a file, doing something like `w3c -dump filename > filename2', then trying to cut and paste filename2 into a reply. Then you have the headache of somebody reading a long thread, deciding to post to it, and then mangling everything in that reply to conform to the so-called HTML standard.
personally, I *hate* HTML stuff, particulary in lists. This is still good here, but in the samba list it's all HTML source. I do not mind HTML for personal mail, since I use netscape. Had a HTML mail from a friend. The instant I pressed reply, netscape went bang. It was written with word97, had a lot of garbage and 8 short lines of text. 80% garbage HTML info... I can accept the occasional error by misconfiguration, my fears are that the "new" and "nice" stuff turns to be a "standard", claimed to be "the standard" by people that use it. The help you get from a list won't be better if you use a big colored font in a cry for help, maybe even less. There are "easy" ways onverting to plain text, maybe in the list archives. I sort HTML stuff to a special folder (were Jon's answer popped up as well) and usually delete the stuff.
The truth is that there are only a handful of mail clients (actually, Nutscrape Mail is the only one that comes to mind) that truly handles HTML *natively*. pine and mutt (amongst others) can be *adapted* (through the use of a .mailcap file) to read it, but they promptly make any reply standard text.
True, some of us <waving hand in the air> use mail clients that are feature-poor or otherwise sub-optimized; does that mean we should be punished for choosing software that suits our needs? Should we be ostracized from the community that values individuality above all else? Hell, let's make it so that any messages not sent with Microsoft Outlook 2000 are automatically rejected by the transport agent at suse.com!! Is everybody with me?!?!
At this time I am. Some are still forced by circumstances to use M$ (I use exchange at work. sending to the list from there would *instantly* turn me into ashes by the flames from the list, caused by all the rubbish that exchange / our X400 gateway adds to a mail...) I realy like to see HTML vanish, cause the attitude of some HTML mailing people makes my blood boil. Juergen
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