Richard Brown wrote:
On 24 January 2017 at 17:25, Per Jessen <per@computer.org> wrote:
Richard Brown wrote:
On 24 January 2017 at 16:40, Mark Hounschell <markh@compro.net> wrote:
I'm not here for help on this. There is nothing "senseless" about staying on 13.2 for the time being. If I need help with a _basic_ install of Leap on hardware that works on 13.2, I will stay with 13.2. The install was just an exercise to see where it is. Can I use this yet sort of thing. I'll try 42.3 when it arrives, but until then I'll be sticking with 13.2.
senseless - lacking common sense; wildly foolish.
[big snip] While it could be seen to be disrespectful, sometimes ignorance or poor judgement needs to be challenged and it is clearly in the best interest of 13.2 users to cease using 13.2 as soon as possible if they wish their systems to remain secure on the internet or stable with new hardware and peripherals.
That is certainly true - as you say, "as soon as possible". Hence, until it is possible to migrate, it makes a lot of sense to remain. Even for new installations.
It is possible. We've tested it. It works. We wouldn't have shipped it otherwise.
I beg to differ. We didn't test it well enough. Depending on the context, there are a number of bugs that prevent one from moving to Leap42x. I posted a list last week I think; these prevent me from moving office desktops to Leap42x. I also had one show-stopper that prevented some servers from running Leap42x, but that was fixed 1-2 weeks ago. https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=905034 Descr: psychedelic colours in scans. Workaround: remain on 13.2. https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1012299 Descr: wicked does not work (rfkill prob). Workaround: use NetworkManager, but it doesn't work with systemd::fstab mounts. https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1011196 Descr: firefox rendering problem, reported upstream. Workaround: none. https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1015478 Descr: printing an a4 pdf from okular comes out scaled down to apprx a5. Workaround: remain on 13.2. https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1006175 Descr: zypper dup from leap421 renders system unbootable (now fixed, release notes amended).
If there are caveats, the mitigations for those caveats include workarounds and bug reports. Keeping with openSUSE 13.2 when it is unmaintained and vulnerable is senseless.
I'll have to check the bugreports, but the only workaround I'm aware of is to remain on 13.2. Makes sense. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (-4.2°C) http://www.cloudsuisse.com/ - your owncloud, hosted in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org