On Wednesday 26 January 2005 12:24 pm, david rankin wrote:
I don't understand ever releasing a Linux distro without:
apache2 apcupsd bind - and utilities dhcp-server, client, etc. ethereal php4, etc..
Randall Added
It appears you think all, or even most, Linux users run systems used as servers. I strongly doubt that's the case.
Maybe I'm just old school, but every distro I've ever bought or downloaded up until very recently has always included the capability to be either a server or workstation or both. Starting with mdk 7 or Suse 8. Granted, the improvement with the ftp mirror and update setup has largely rendered this argument moot. You can simply grab the additional packages you need. My point was that a large number of folks view the server packages as 'core' applications to any distro and it just seems strange that they weren't included There certainly wasn't a space argument to be raised. There is 1.6G of free space on the single layer DVD. ---> ./CD1/suse/i586/apache2-devel-2.0.50-7.i586.rpm ---> ./CD1/suse/i586/apache2-doc-2.0.50-7.i586.rpm ---> ./CD1/suse/i586/apache2-example-pages-2.0.50-7.i586.rpm ---> ./CD1/suse/i586/apache2-mod_auth_mysql-20030510-208.i586.rpm ---> ./CD1/suse/i586/apache2-mod_fastcgi-2.4.2-2.i586.rpm ---> ./CD1/suse/i586/apache2-mod_macro-1.1.6-2.i586.rpm ---> ./CD1/suse/i586/apache2-mod_perl-1.99_12_20040302-38.i586.rpm ---> ./CD1/suse/i586/apache2-mod_php4-4.3.8-8.i586.rpm ---> ./CD1/suse/i586/apache2-mod_python-3.1.3-37.i586.rpm ---> ./CD1/suse/i586/apache2-mod_ruby-1.2.2-2.i586.rpm ---> ./CD1/suse/i586/apache2-prefork-2.0.50-7.i586.rpm ---> ./CD1/suse/i586/apache2-worker-2.0.50-7.i586.rpm
pin 0.30 - package info for apcupsd
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---> ./CD1/suse/i586/apcupsd-3.10.15-3.i586.rpm ---> ./CD1/suse/x86_64/apcupsd-3.10.15-3.x86_64.rpm ---> ./CD2/suse/src/apcupsd-3.10.15-3.src.rpm
./CD1/suse/i586/nessus-core-2.0.12-2.i586.rpm: -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1618 Oct 5 02:16 /usr/lib/nessus/plugins/apcupsd_overflows.nasl ---> ./CD1/suse/i586/apcupsd-3.10.15-3.i586.rpm ./CD1/suse/i586/apcupsd-3.10.15-3.i586.rpm: Name : apcupsd Relocations: (not relocatable) ./CD1/suse/i586/apcupsd-3.10.15-3.i586.rpm: Version : 3.10.15 Vendor: SUSE LINUX AG, Nuernberg, Germany ./CD1/suse/i586/apcupsd-3.10.15-3.i586.rpm: Release : 3
# locate bind /etc/bindresvport.blacklist /etc/init.d/ypbind /etc/profile.d/bindkey.tcsh /etc/sysconfig/ypbind /home/blonde1/.kde/share/icons/AquaFusion/16x16/apps/key_bindings.png /home/blonde1/.kde/share/icons/AquaFusion/22x22/apps/key_bindings.png /home/blonde1/.kde/share/icons/AquaFusion/32x32/apps/key_bindings.png /home/blonde1/.kde/share/icons/AquaFusion/48x48/apps/key_bindings.png /home/blonde1/.kde/share/icons/AquaFusion/64x64/apps/key_bindings.png /home/blonde1/.kde/share/icons/marbles-0.1.4/32x32/apps/key_bindings.png /home/blonde1/.kde/share/icons/marbles-0.1.4/48x48/apps/key_bindings.png /opt/gnome/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/gnome-settings-keybindings.png /opt/kde3/include/kjsembed/jsbinding.h /opt/kde3/include/kjsembed/jsbindingplugin.h /opt/kde3/share/apps/kaddressbook/printing/ringbinder-style.png /opt/kde3/share/apps/quanta/doc/php/function.bindec.html /opt/kde3/share/apps/quanta/doc/php/function.ibase-bind.html /opt/kde3/share/apps/quanta/doc/php/function.ldap-bind.html /opt/kde3/share/apps/quanta/doc/php/function.ldap-unbind.html /opt/kde3/share/apps/quanta/doc/php/function.ocibindbyname.html /opt/kde3/share/apps/quanta/doc/php/function.ora-bind.html /opt/kde3/share/icons/crystalsvg/128x128/apps/key_bindings.png /opt/kde3/share/icons/crystalsvg/16x16/apps/key_bindings.png /opt/kde3/share/icons/crystalsvg/32x32/apps/key_bindings.png /opt/kde3/share/icons/crystalsvg/48x48/apps/key_bindings.png /opt/kde3/share/icons/crystalsvg/64x64/apps/key_bindings.png /opt/kde3/share/icons/kdeclassic/32x32/apps/key_bindings.png /opt/kde3/share/icons/kids/16x16/apps/key_bindings.png /opt/kde3/share/icons/kids/22x22/apps/key_bindings.png /opt/kde3/share/icons/kids/32x32/apps/key_bindings.png /opt/kde3/share/icons/kids/48x48/apps/key_bindings.png /opt/kde3/share/icons/kids/64x64/apps/key_bindings.png /opt/kde3/share/icons/Locolor/16x16/apps/key_bindings.png 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/usr/include/samba/nsswitch/winbindd.h /usr/include/samba/nsswitch/winbindd_nss.h /usr/include/samba/nsswitch/winbindd_proto.h /usr/include/samba/nsswitch/winbind_client.h /usr/include/samba/nsswitch/winbind_nss.h /usr/include/samba/nsswitch/winbind_nss_config.h /usr/include/samba/nsswitch/winbind_nss_linux.h /usr/lib/autofs/mount_bind.so /usr/lib/libbind.so.3 /usr/lib/libbind.so.3.0.7 /usr/lib/qt3/doc/html/qaxbindable-h.html /usr/lib/qt3/doc/html/qaxbindable-members.html /usr/lib/qt3/doc/html/qaxbindable.html /usr/lib/tk8.4/demos/bind.tcl /usr/sbin/rcypbind /usr/sbin/ypbind /usr/share/doc/packages/bind /usr/share/doc/packages/bind/README.SUSE /usr/share/doc/packages/boost-doc/libs/bind /usr/share/doc/packages/boost-doc/libs/bind/bind.html /usr/share/doc/packages/boost-doc/libs/bind/index.html /usr/share/doc/packages/boost-doc/libs/bind/mem_fn.html /usr/share/doc/packages/boost-doc/libs/bind/ref.html /usr/share/doc/packages/boost-doc/libs/functional/binders.html /usr/share/doc/packages/boost-doc/libs/mpl/doc/refmanual/bind.html /usr/share/doc/packages/boost-doc/libs/spirit/phoenix/doc/binders.html /usr/share/doc/packages/gettext/bindtextdomain.3.html /usr/share/doc/packages/gettext/bind_textdomain_codeset.3.html /usr/share/doc/packages/i4l-base/howto/pppbind.txt /usr/share/doc/packages/libstdc++-devel/html_user/classstd_1_1binder1st-members.html /usr/share/doc/packages/libstdc++-devel/html_user/classstd_1_1binder1st.html /usr/share/doc/packages/libstdc++-devel/html_user/classstd_1_1binder2nd-members.html /usr/share/doc/packages/libstdc++-devel/html_user/classstd_1_1binder2nd.html /usr/share/doc/packages/libstdc++-devel/html_user/group__s20__3__6__binder.html /usr/share/doc/packages/svg-dtd/1.0/ecmascript-binding.html /usr/share/doc/packages/svg-dtd/1.0/java-binding.zip /usr/share/doc/packages/svg-dtd/1.1/ecmascript-binding.html /usr/share/doc/packages/svg-dtd/1.1/java-binding.zip /usr/share/doc/packages/wine/doc-html/winelib-user/bindlls-building.html /usr/share/doc/packages/wine/doc-html/winelib-user/bindlls-filenames.html /usr/share/doc/packages/wine/doc-html/winelib-user/bindlls-installing.html /usr/share/doc/packages/wine/doc-html/winelib-user/bindlls-spec.html /usr/share/doc/packages/wine/doc-html/winelib-user/bindlls-wrapper.html /usr/share/doc/packages/wine/doc-html/winelib-user/bindlls.html /usr/share/doc/packages/yast2-perl-bindings /usr/share/doc/packages/yast2-perl-bindings/COPYING /usr/share/doc/packages/yast2-perl-bindings/COPYRIGHT.english /usr/share/doc/packages/yast2-perl-bindings/README /usr/share/doc/packages/yast2-perl-bindings/YaPI.html /usr/share/doc/packages/yast2-perl-bindings/YaST__YCP.html /usr/share/doc/packages/yast2-perl-bindings/YCP-builtins-perl.html /usr/share/doc/packages/ypbind /usr/share/doc/packages/ypbind/AUTHORS /usr/share/doc/packages/ypbind/ChangeLog /usr/share/doc/packages/ypbind/COPYING 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/usr/share/zsh/4.2.1/functions/_bindkey /usr/share/zsh/help/bindkey /usr/src/kernel-modules/linux-iscsi-4.0.1/iscsi-bindings.c /usr/src/kernel-modules/linux-iscsi-4.0.1/iscsi-bindings.h /usr/src/kernel-modules/linux-iscsi-4.0.1/iscsi.bindings.5 /usr/src/linux-2.6.8-24.5/arch/m68k/fpsp040/bindec.S /usr/src/linux-2.6.8-24.5/Documentation/driver-model/binding.txt /usr/src/linux-2.6.8-24.5/drivers/acpi/pci_bind.c /usr/src/linux-2.6.8-24.5/include/linux/lockd/bind.h /usr/src/linux-2.6.8-24.5/net/sctp/bind_addr.c /usr/X11R6/man/man3/XRebindKeysym.3x.gz /var/adm/fillup-templates/rc.config.ypbind.del /var/adm/fillup-templates/sysconfig.ypbind /var/cache/rcd/packages/kdebindings3-java-3.3.2-3.i586.rpm.MGs8uK /var/cache/rcd/packages/kdebindings3-java-3.3.2-3.i586.rpm.SCgEAU /var/cache/rcd/packages/kdebindings3-python-3.3.2-3.i586.rpm /var/yp/binding
pin 0.30 - package info for ethereal
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Name : ethereal Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 0.10.6 Vendor: SUSE LINUX AG, Nuernberg , Germany Release : 3 Build Date: Mon 04 Oct 2004 09:00:05 PM EDT Install date: Thu 18 Nov 2004 01:59:53 PM EST Build Host: arwen.suse.de Group : Productivity/Networking/Diagnostic Source RPM: ethereal-0.10.6-3 .src.rpm Size : 16578523 License: GPL Signature : DSA/SHA1, Mon 04 Oct 2004 09:09:17 PM EDT, Key ID a84edae89c800aca Packager : http://www.suse.de/feedback URL : http://ethereal.com/ Summary : A Network Traffic Analyser Description : Ethereal is a free network protocol analyzer for Unix and Windows. It allows you to examine data from a live network or from a capture file on disk. You can interactively browse the capture data, viewing summary
pin 0.30 - package info for php4
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Name : php4 Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 4.3.8 Vendor: SUSE LINUX AG, Nuernberg , Germany Release : 8 Build Date: Tue 05 Oct 2004 09:12:49 AM EDT Install date: Tue 25 Jan 2005 01:51:24 AM EST Build Host: boltzmann.suse.de Group : Productivity/Networking/Web/Servers Source RPM: php4-4.3.8-8.src .rpm Size : 3052412 License: Other uncritical OpenSou rce License, Other License(s), see package Signature : DSA/SHA1, Tue 05 Oct 2004 09:16:21 AM EDT, Key ID a84edae89c800aca Packager : http://www.suse.de/feedback URL : http://www.php.net Summary : PHP4 Core Files Description : This package contains the PHP4 core files, including PHP binary (CLI) and PHP configuration (php.ini). This package must be installed in Seems like most of what you want *IS* actually on the dvd.. uh, you were talking about the dvd purchased weren't you? ;/ --
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