On Thursday 27 January 2005 00:47, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Since SuSE 9.2 Pro is full of problems--as seen on this list-- what are you going to be installing? (How can I get an English language version of an OS that doesn't have these?)
And what are you going to be doing about programs that don't exist in Linux, like AutoCad, or Pro-E, or the EEsof RF software, etc.?
Plenty of CAD stuff for Sun, if not for Linux. You certainly don't need MS. Can't tell you about the other stuff, because I've never heard of it. Pro-E sounds like a bodybuilding supplement.
Or is this only for office people, who only need a word processor, a spread sheet, an Internet browser, Adobe, and e-mail? (Everybody else will have XP?)
Don't get me wrong: I'd like to see Linux win the battle with MS, but the problems are not small, nor are they subtle.
--doug
Apart from a few annoyances getting my scanner running on one install, I haven't seen many of these problems ... I know that's a matter of hardware luck to an extent, but I've got three perfectly happy 9.2 installs running fine and doing everything I need. Remember you're talking about people's questions and often minor frustrations with an entire distro, hundreds if not thousands of megabytes of userland programmes on top of an OS. And it's certainly not fuller of problems than WinXP is it? I was obliged to attempt to install that particular spectacular the other day (100% legal official CD), and the install programme is as dumb as a brick. The disk partitioning tools are complete poo, and you're given almost no control over things. The one thing they make sure 'works' is that you can't get anywhere without their precious codes, and that it will commit suicide if you don't 'activate' it, and that you can't set it up on more than on machine. Without an internet connection this means you actually have to phone them in order to have it continue working. No thanks! I already paid for this stuff and now I have to phone Mummy to be allowed to use it? Now start comparing like for like in terms of price: you won't get far with productivity on what comes on an XP disc, will you? You want a machine with the kind of software loadout that comes with SuSE in Windows and it would cost me five or ten times the price to set up. Cheers Fergus
At 09:40 AM 1/26/2005 +0000, Ben Higginbottom wrote:
On 25/01/05 07:17 PM, Jake Sallee <spark@breathedeeply.com> wrote:
On Tuesday 25 January 2005 03:05, Ben Higginbottom wrote: <snip>
The last I heared was that it was still going ahead but at a slower rate.
Belive me for an install base as large as Munich's (14,000 IIRC) a 4 year
migration isnt at all slow. IBM is looking at probably a minimum of 5 years to migrate all 200,000 desktops, longer if they port all their software suites. Novell switched to a dual boot system and OOo last summer and will have migrated to NLD fully by the end of this summer, which I thought was amazingly quick.
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