Pascal Bleser wrote:
Believe me, it's really not a "rolls". We must find a way to provide those features. Maybe you don't see yet how it will affect/improve the end-user experience with SUSE Linux, but it's one of the major issues.
I see, but I never make an assumption like "we must" when speaking of others work :-( if we could have developpers do enhanced changelog I would be very pleased, but when I see how difficult it is to make FSH used in packages, I doubt.
BTW, I provide over 500 packages in my repository, with around 100 being active with regular updates. How do you want to handle that information if it's not automated and provided by the packagers
of course. How many users do you think SUSE Linux will have? and many packages have not users interesting updates. a year ago or so I was subscribed to a newsletter from a freshmeat clone (icewalker or so) and received a notice for all packages submitted this day. One notice a day. I stopped receiving this because a mail failure and neglected to resubscribe. I know fresmeat makes something similar. I read some hardware magazines. For each new product, they enphasise on what is new, what is good. It's something like this we need. not too big, for nobody will read it, made by real users, able to say what is really usefull in all the new stuff. more a news paper than a true log.
End-users must definately be involved into that process, based on the data that's provided by the packagers: - - sending bug reports - - a simple (web-based (?)) voting system to say whether the package worked for them or not - - adding comments, user experiences about packages
_this_ is a hole different thing from what I asks for. I want to know "what is worth going from Gimp 1 to Gimp 2" right now I see only problems (different menus layout), because I only try to use the same fonctions again and again, may be missing the real point. (this is only an example, don't answer the question :-)
Personally, I envision opensuse.org as being a big aggregator for all of this. Future shall tell ;)
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