On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 09:26:30PM +0200, Harry ten Berge wrote:
This is what I do 1) Explain what the problem is 2) Explain what the solution is for now 3) Explain what is being done to solve the issue.
It is as if a kid fell in the water and everybody is standing at the side saying how terrible it is and all the time the kid is drowning. So instead of standing at the side, jump in, or are you (multiple people) afraid to get wet?
No. Seriously. I'm not afraid to get wet. But the problem is that I find it at this stage difficult to handle your point 2 and 3.
2) Use smart and remove zmd and such. 3) People are working and testing at this very moment. You have already been pointed to opensuse-factory. Look first here: http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse-factory/2006-May/ Skip all the makeSUSEdvd stuff, because that is solved. <snip>
Besides that, I really don't know what we can do about it in the community.
1) 2) and 3) ;-)
The one thing I can think of is a general discussion about package management for 10.2. I don't mean the technical implementation, because Novell has decided that zmd/rug is the solution. But the huge amount of different repository types, the way you must add additional repos.... For newbies (I've got some friends I convinced to try 10.1) it's way to difficult. That is something we think about in the community...
It is. There are some small discussions about that in opensuse-factory as well. I personally think implementing *.repo is a good way. Just click it and you are done. It is always good to here what newbies think, because most of us are so close and things become so obvious, that we forget how a newbie sees it. Let yourself be heard in factory. Otherwise it is just jdd and me taking up space. :-) -- houghi http://houghi.org http://www.plainfaqs.org/linux/ http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
Today I went outside. My pupils have never been tinier...
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