While at the car wash getting my midsize truck washed, I finally got to August's Linux Magazine. There was a very well-written article on 10.1 and the two "bleeding edge" issues around it - ZEN and XGL. Though I haven't touched XGL (I use KDE) I read the ZEN part with interest. http://www.linux-mag.com/content/view/2609/ "Can you believe that the libzypp stuff is so bleeding-edge that it doesn’t work for most people? Or that it was engineered by a group of genetically-engineered Bonobo monkeys living in a secret Massachusetts research facility? How about a sleep-deprived product release team pressured to get a product out before the beginning of the summer?" Interesting reading. Oh, and he goes on to link to the wikki thingy about how to run XGL on KDE. (I still haven't tried it.) -- Kai Ponte www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com remember - a turn signal is a statement, not a request