Matthias Hopf wrote:
On Oct 21, 06 05:27:05 +0100, Dave Howorth wrote:
concern, if I'd bought SLES or SLED instead of Pro, does that mean I wouldn't be able to replace a failed graphics card with a current model within the extended support period?
For SLED AFAIK we have a working update path with service packs, including feature updates. We don't have that for the consumer products (and we don't need that, because the versions come out much more frequently).
OK, that's good to know.
I'm not saying that the 6200 doesn't work with SL9.3. I just remember that there have been issues with the nv driver and newer 6200 chips, I don't remember whether this was 9.3 or an earlier release. The binary only driver works. Though, again, I don't know whether the driver released with 9.3 will work or not.
I also looked at the SUSE hardware compatibility list. It says there are
Where from?
<http://cdb.suse.de/productSearch.php?PHPSESSID=11197f30bc15c371b4a6a5a2fb78be79&LANG=en_UK&searchtype=extended&update_session=1&f_manufactor=nvidia&f_vendorId=&f_device=6200&f_deviceId=&f_method=AND&f_supported=0&f_categories%5B%5D=133&f_categories%5B%5D=133&f_dist=&f_arch=> The second entry is my card, AFAICT, and it says there is full support under both nv and the nvidia driver. BTW, I found this interesting: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_NVIDIA_Graphics_Processing_Units>
three types of 6200. All are AGP !? One is apparently my specific model
AFAIR:
0x00F3 (GeForce 6200) is AGP 0x0146 (GeForce Go 6600 TE/6200 TE), 0x014F (GeForce 6200) are PCIe.
AFAIR all 0x00F* chips are the IDs of the AGP converter chips. 6xxx is natively PCIe.
(0x0221). All are stated to have FULL support in 9.3 amd64, but the one that seems to match my configuration most exactly is NOT supported in 10.1.
I cannot find 0x0221 in NVIDIA's README.txt at all. I think I remember there has been the issue that NVIDIA forgot one of the devices in the README, which in turn doesn't have sax2 detect the driver automatically... The driver itself worked, however.
I couldn't find it in nvidia's lists either :( I didn't check their forums. I think my card corresponds to the chipset marked NV43/NV44a in the wikipedia list, since it has DDR2 memory. I'll stop trying to use sax2, then. That'll be a relief - it always gives me grief one way or another.
So that seems a good reason to run 9.3! But why am I running 9.3? Start from the premise that I want to minimise maintenance effort - I moved to SUSE from Debian for that reason, as well as others. So I have to have a positive need to upgrade, which I haven't found yet. Plus, from what I
Then don't do it. You may have to install the NVIDIA driver yourself, but that isn't rocket science. You would have to do that on windows as well.
I've downloaded the nvidia driver now but haven't yet installed it. I think the version of the driver that YOU is trying to install is the one that was current when SUSE 9.3 was launched. To be fair, none of the subsequent ones have security fixes, except for the latest. It's not rocket science but it is time-consuming. I've spent a couple of hours finding all the docs on the nvidia site and reading them. I've already wasted a few hours playing with YOU and especially sax2. Now I need to reread all the X stuff to make sure I'm familiar with the appropriate options and paths etc. I think on Windows it would either just know, or I'd stick in the disk that came with the card and then it would know what to do. I'd be really surprised if I needed to spend more than five minutes. (Not that I intend to use Windows again any time soon :) If nvidia really want to support Linux, they should put their driver and Linux installer on the disk!
can see on this list, 10.1 is not a release that is likely to reduce the effort I have to spend on maintenance. My perception is that it's likely to take more time and be more difficult to manage.
Depending on what you want to do, this could well be.
If I understand it though, this creates more work doesn't it? Every time
Not too much. You have to reinstall the driver (read: compile/install the kernel module) if you download an updated kernel. This doesn't happen too often.
monitor nvidia to see if they release a new version of the driver, which I'll have to update manually. I believe there is a new version with security implications in beta now, for example. I'd much rather have that automatically sorted out by YOU.
In this particular case, the security issue is only something for 10.1 and up. We didn't have any other issues. That's why you probably won't see any driver updates at all. That's why the driver *might* be too old for a newer card.
I think I saw something in nvidia's docs that says their installer will dial home for a new driver if the installer realizes it needs it. It would be good if YOU downloaded a version recent enough to have that feature. I really appreciate your help. Thank, Matthias. Cheers, Dave
Again, the SUSE CDB says it is supported.
So the CDB is still there? Interesting...
Matthias