As someone who belongs to alot of lists, and gets alot of mail, I think I see both sides. Linux has a factor to it you don't find with Windows users as much, it is a do it yourself, inquisitive attitude. I also think there is a lot of impatience. Part of where the impatience comes from, and the RTFM, comments is because alot of people just don't, sad as it sounds, _bother_ to RTFM and it simply is a rite of initiation. I think people lose patience when people as stuff where they are being asked the same basic questions over and over again, when if the person posting had taken a little initiative (something you don't need as much with Windows and Macs) they could have solved their own problem without having to keep posting and reposting the same stuff. I think you'll find, that this list is one of the better ones, and _most_ linux lists are awesome in providing aid for the newbie and the experienced user, but you have to at least _LOOK_ like you have a frigging clue. If you don't...and the guy that posted that stuff about 'how do I unsubscribe?' when the answer was right at the bottom of the page, is basically just BEGGING to be flamed. It's unavoidable. You will see that if you do your homework many of these problems almost solve themselves, and if you ask a question, that shows you at least _tried_ to solve your own problem, you will most likely not be slammed with the RTFM. As someone who can be impatient, I have said some things I shouldn't have on this list from time to time. Don't take it personally, when someone goes RTFM. It's not an insult, it's just a helpful pointer. Take care, and good luck learning Linux. -M One is most dishonest towards one's God; he is not _permitted_ to sin. On Fri, 3 Jul 1998, Kristian Farren wrote:
Date: Fri, 03 Jul 1998 23:51:36 -0700 From: Kristian Farren <kf@wa.net> Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Aol
Do you really think your that better than somebody just because of the f*****g ISP you choose? As somebody new to Linux I got to say that all off you who flood this mailing list with the "read the MAN,you moron", response do absolutely nothing to further the cause of a true alternate to the Microsoft juggernaut. I mean if you really feel that good about your self, well that's fine but keep it to yourself. Some of the posts on this list kind of remind me of grade school; you know how there is always that kid who's parents are smarter or richer or whatever?
Kristian Farren kf@wa.net
Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:
Wait till webtv people appear here. :-(
<RANTING>
Each time you found an absolute LOW POINT, your faith in the infinity of human stupidity *will* be restored. At least that person was kind enough to _ask_ **nicely**, which is kind of hard if all you can do is point'n'drool.
(And people wonder why some are not absolutely excited of giving Linux to these people, knowing fully well who's gonna get all the questions ... )
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