Op 23-11-12 15:34, Anton Aylward schreef:
Oddball said the following on 11/23/2012 09:11 AM:
Op 23-11-12 14:34, Anton Aylward schreef:
Oddball said the following on 11/23/2012 07:57 AM:
[about changing symbols due to translation or transcription or something] But you *did* get _exactly_ was what sent to the TTY. This confuses me.. So what you are trying to tell me, is that the output i see on the screen, is not the real output, but what script sends to the file is?
That you do not know what the escape codes for your TTY are that are in the data stream is just that; you don't know. Exactly, i don't know..
It is however a correct record of the output sent to your TTY. Despite what you say it is the real output. Here you say it again: What i see on the tty screen is not the real output. If you type the control codes to position the cursor or the change
colour, you don't see the codes but you do see the result.
Those codes are part of the data stream whether you see them or see their results as interpreted by the terminal driver.
In one sense it a difference that makes no difference, depending on how you 'interpret' it.
What you see on the screen is [the result] of the real output.
Try man terminfo or the easier to understand though obsolete 'termcap' capability. 'termcap' looks like 'terminal capture'
(assumption) And is obsolete because the info you see on the screen is not correct, so it is useless? Far from it. Terminfo is an optimization of terminfo; you can think of terminfo as the compiled (binary) version of termcap.
If you read the man pages you'd have seen that it says that! <quote> The termcap database is an obsolete facility for describing the capabilities of character-cell terminals and printers. It is retained only for capability with old programs; new ones should use the terminfo(5) database and associated libraries. </quote> ... and more. Of course googling would have told you all that and more http://books.google.ca/books?id=GsUMLqtYI1UC&pg=PA1&lpg=PA1&dq=history+of+termcap+and+terminfo&source=bl&ots=RoIDexMWXc&sig=-rfZdKtM8LEN9iPLm6ya_0Ucx3Q&hl=en&sa=X&ei=y4ivUNDdBqii2wWn54DICQ&ved=0CD0Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=history%20of%20termcap%20and%20terminfo&f=false
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminfo
I have a question: Why don't you do all this research for yourself?
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