On laptops and desktops this works aucomagically when the wireless is connected at install time. However if you forgot it or went old school and later decide to add wireless your in problems. Currently I have an older system with 11.4 on it and I am trying to add wireless after the fact with Yast. I have installed iw and smpppd and gone into Yast to setup the Engenious 9603H which works fine on the laptops. I have tried setup in Yast with manual trigger ifup ifdown and no go. What is the best way to overcome this short of reinstall. And before you ask most of my stuff is to old for 13.x even my best systems choke on Gnome 3. so upgrading to a hung system is not in the works. CWSIV -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org