If I startx this is what i get: (--) SVGA: Mode "1800X1440" needs hsync freq of 96.15 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1800X1440" needs hsync freq of 104.52 kHz. Deleted. (**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" (--) SVGA: clgd5420: Specifying a Clocks line makes no sense for this driver (--) SVGA: chipset: clgd5420 (--) SVGA: videoram: 1024k (**) SVGA: clocks: 25.23 28.32 41.16 36.08 31.50 39.99 45.08 49.87 (**) SVGA: Using 8 bpp, Depth 8, Color weight: 666 (--) SVGA: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 50.200 MHz (**) SVGA: Mode "1024x768": mode clock = 44.900, clock used = 45.075 (**) SVGA: Mode "800x600": mode clock = 40.000, clock used = 39.991 (**) SVGA: Mode "640x480": mode clock = 31.500, clock used = 31.499 (--) SVGA: Virtual resolution set to 1024x768 (--) SVGA: Generic SpeedUps selected (Flags=0x30) (**) SVGA: clgd5420: Approximate DRAM bandwidth for drawing: 5 of 50 MB/s (--) SVGA: clgd5420: 262144 bytes off-screen memory available System: `/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/xkbcomp -w 1 -R/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb -xkm -m us -em1 "The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:" -emp "> " -eml "Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server" keymap/xfree86 /var/tmp/xfree86.xkm' waiting for X server to shut down FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. If I setup .xinitrc to startkde then x works great. i would like to be able to try other window managers. has anyone else seen this problem. also if I run xdm or kdm in rc.config, I get the login screen, but after I login, the screen goes grey and just sits there. ___________________ Jt - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e