In data giovedì 16 luglio 2020 12:03:36 CEST, jdd@dodin.org ha scritto:
Le 16/07/2020 à 11:57, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
On 16/07/2020 11.47, cagsm wrote:
What I was always lacking to comprehend was that people claimed to simply delete everything but the/home/ partition and start with a fresh OS, how crazy.
That is trivial to do :-D
yep. There are many reason to do so *when possible*
* don't miss useful change :-) * start with a clean install, after installing and removing tons of softs in the mean time * test the new install before going to production level...
but!!
on some installs, IE servers for example, it's not really possible.
but :-)
other systems (W or M) are also prone for update problems
keeping the same old kernel for several years (see uptime!!) on a server is pretty thrilling :-(
so keep cool until you get some free time before updating, and be confident than openSUSE is not the worst in this respect!
jdd
To be clear: this is not a rant about opensuse or KDE PIM. I could rant, but this would have no value. Users read if others have problems. They may feel that is important or not. If somebody using for all evolution, Gnome or Thunderbird with KDE or whatever, he may not have any problems. I was quite satisfied with 15.0 although some long standing bugs that were tedious. But manageable, overall. 15.1 at the beginning was somewhat rough, but bearable. Now, this is the first time since the famous disaster of KDE4.0 that I am really loosing data, cannot work anymore. I have opened a bug report on the issues, I cannot complain the assistance is good, I am trying to resist to be able to contribute. So I cannot claim anybody told me "just erase everything but the home partition". But I can go here and publish my current(!) experience, in order to warn less solid users, that are not able to hop around, go back and forth, maybe are even lazy on backups (not so rare after all) and make sure they know that this time, in some occasions (as i told you, my father 93 years old has a PC but uses PIM little, so has small amount of data and does not use organizer. The problem may be there but I did not notice because the issue does not arise. But if people know they do rely on PIM work with KDE and are now quite comfortable with the quality of 15.1, why let them run into an open knife. I would advice to wait 6 to 8 month before update and only if the issues get fixed. Apparently there has been some shortcoming or incident that avoided at least one fix to be included causing one of the bugs. Another bug appearing in the multiple crashes should purportedly be fixed but obviously isn't, so the fact that I am running into it is unpleasant but positive, as this feedback will help to check regressions and incidents. But when I am comparing the last two upgrades, this one, although in theory a real advantage, turn, with me(!) in my situation(!) to be one, not for the faint of heart. So please do not misinterpret this as a discomfort with openSUSE as a whole, but with the current 15.2 that stresses me (I am getting annoyed when something gets difficult, I am getting stressed when major data loss occurs, when programs crash continuously and get unusable. But this is NOT meant as a lack of confidence in the people working for openSUSE or in the distribution as a whole. There is a reason why I am using it since now version 6.0 (and at the time THAT was real horror to learn when coming from NT, believe me, you would open champaign when you just made the install and have it running. Today it is a very modern system, but the state of PIM did surprise me negatively. Which induced the warning. As I said: not working with akonadi: I am quite sure you will not have complain. Having a new install from zero? Also quite confident that all will be gorgeously fine. But if you use KDE with PIM watch out for heavy weather. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org