All, Note on the Tumbleweed Net install ISO. Of the 20+ years I've used SUSE/openSUSE, this was by far the most frustrating and error prone install I have ever done. The US Mirrors and the magic "mirror selector" is unusable. My first 3 attempts at install ended in: Error 10 - Connection Closed with 96M left to download Connection Closed with 92M left to download Error 18 - Connection Closed with 116M left to download After selecting an individual mirror, download was limited to between 80-300Kbs. Downloading Installation System 1/6, 2/6, .... took over an hour to complete. Then a dialog was presented saying Install system matching repository must be downloaded, Download [Now] [Reboot], only to have to wait another hour as the same files were downloaded. After 2nd download completed, we were presented with Install with - GUI or Text Mode. Choosing GUI presented another dialog that the install system matching the selection would have to be downloaded throwing me back into the "Downloading Installation System 1/6, 2/6, .... " (really?) Tried a second individual mirror, same download rate 80-300Kbs (on an 300Mbs connection), same circular text mode prompts, (including being dropped out of the X-win gray screen to the console and the text prompts just showing in ther terminal) same result - never even had the installer load. Third individual mirror selection - this time connection speed was 6Mbs, Install system loaded in less than 4 minutes, Installation program finally launched and I was able to complete the install with a minimal X install in 40 minutes or so. Issues: Yast cannot configure network claiming Network Manager is managing the network -- but I have IceWM as the desktop and no Network Manager is shown or available. How do I tell yast to configure my network connections? /etc/pam.d/su - not present. I had to copy from 15.4 - why? Yast Software Repositories does not show any of the normal repositories, only Packman and libdvdcss. Where do I get the list of the normally available repos for TW? Good points: On launch of Software_Single, Yast correctly recognized the Nvidia card in the laptop and loaded the kernel source and built the driver without issue. Very nice. All in all, just getting the installer to run from this net install was the most painful exercise I've been though installing Linux. Now granted, this seems to be 99% related to the mirror-selector and the abysmal state of US mirrors. I don't know why this is, but I went through 4 individual mirrors, and 3 of 4 had no thoughput resulting in 1+ hours just to attempt to load the install system -- which would then fail. The fcix.net mirror was the only good mirror I found. In order to not get 1/2-way though only to be forced to re-download the matching install system from that mirror, I downloaded a copy of the iso from that mirror before starting the install. Otherwise, if you choose an individual mirror, the install will get 1/2 way to starting the install system only to say your media doesn't match the mirror and force you to download it in the middle of the install system load -- likely leading to the ultimate failure when just choosing an individual mirror. That should be seamless. If there is a tech requirement to download the iso from an individual mirror, then you should be notified of that as soon as you enter the url for the mirror, not an hour later after waiting for 1/6, 2/6, ... only to have to do it again. US mirrors need a bit of TLC, or the bad ones just need to be dropped. Having done this 20 times, I can muddle though, but someone just downloading the TW net install iso -- has no chance. Let me know if you want further info. I took a few pictures of my screen with my phone of the error dialogs. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.