All, After 15.4 was official, I went with a zypper up for updates today and was presented with: The following 31 package updates will NOT be installed: desktop-data-openSUSE icewm icewm-default icewm-lang icewm-theme-branding keepassxc keepassxc-lang libKF5Cddb5 libKF5Kipi32_0_0 libKF5MediaWiki5 libavcodec57 libavformat57 libavutil55 libkcddb libkcddb-lang libpostproc54 libpython2_7-1_0 libswresample2 libvlc5 libvlccore9 patterns-devel-python-devel_python3 pdftk python-rpm-generators python-rpm-macros python3-dbus-python vlc vlc-codec-gstreamer vlc-lang vlc-noX vlc-qt vlc-vdpau (there were 16 packages to update) Trying, I gave another "zypper dup" and it omitted the "updates will NOT be installed:" list, but provided the same 16 packages to update. Why the "updates will NOT be installed:" list with "zypper up" and not with "zypper dup"? Will the "updates will NOT be installed:" just get bigger and bigger with time? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.