Hi, I used to update my KDE and GNOME by adding yast-source paths from various suse mirror servers to my instalation sources list in Yast... One example is this: ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.3/yast-source Other ones, similar to the above, were available for 10.0, and both for 32 and for 64bit... I assume many members of this list know and use this. BTW I myself learned that from this list some time ago... Now (and it started from May 26th as far as I noticed) all the mirrors, one by one, started removing the KDE update directory structures. There is a README file put instead, pointing to some open suse repositiries. But, these repositories are not formaly structured in the way that is acceptable by Yast as a valid yast-source, so I can not use Yast for this purpose any more. So, what we have here? One fine fully-functional and very convenient mechanism for upgrading if discontinued, with no adequate substitute given. And, yes, this is true *for KDE only*. Because, in the same time, yast-sources for GNOME continued to work in the old fashioned way... (at least whithin last week or so)... Does it have anything to do with the "gnome orienation" declared by Novell some time ago? I understood that it meant just putting more support in the gnome branch comparing to the kde one - not explicit crippling of the kde support and putting blocking obstacles in the way of kde users... Or is it just first move in the direction of replacing yast updater with something new (as I see it is happening with 10.1 right now)??? As a user who *bought* at least one box (mostly two) of each from the following list (6.3, 6.4, 7.0, 7.1, 7.3, 8.0, 8.1, 8.2, 9.0, 9.1, 9.3 and 10.0) and who took the freedom to choose kde instead of gnome - I feel *very bad* now. Or, it is me who missed something obvious? Any comments....suse people on the list anyone... TIA rms -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com