Rajko M. wrote:
On Sunday 13 January 2008 08:52:57 am Frank Fiene wrote:
On Sonntag 13 Januar 2008, Basil Chupin wrote:
Frank Fiene wrote:
You will, of course, get the usual responses stating that everything works well for 'them' so the problem obviously is with your set-up and, therefore, you should submit a bugzilla, detailing everything, including the size of your shoes, before anyone considers your 'complaint' even worthy of attention.
Having stated this, I thank you for your message and have concluded that much passage of time will have to occur before I even consider trying to install KDE4 :-) .
Yes it seems to be no one klick installation yet.
There are many good ideas like desktop icons configuring like an mini application. I like also the new kcontrol. But this is all KDE4, it will be a big improvement but the openSUSE packages are far away from usuable if you have to use kmail, kopete etc.
To disappoint Basil,
You are not, in any way, 'disappointing' me. I am beyond 'disappointment' :-) .
this time the answer is different. Oh? How so?
This is first release in KDE4 series and it is created just as any before, under common opensource development idea to release software often. In the opensource world there is no test lab, and there is no finished product idea as functionality is added on the go, not by customer or marketing department specifications.
So, according to this, 'CHAOS' reigns - "and all is well with the world".
What confused many, including me, is the version addon like Beta, than RC that I deciphered in the same way as openSUSE Beta or RC. I have forgotten that open source has no common standards for version numbering, that will associate certain features and code quality to the number.
Perhaps, then, it is time that some "method in the madness" be introduced for the benefit of the 'common good - ie, the 'punters who use the software' - no?
For instance k3b in openSUSE 10.3 is now version 1.03 and it is fine software for a long time before it was 1.0. Smart is 0.51 and already works fine. Ahem..... smart, which I have installed in 10.3, is 0.52-5.1.
And I agree, it does work very well - much, much better than the zypper in 10.3 which I used for some time before realising that it was, once again, a dud. smart advises me that there are upgrades while zypper/YaST remains totally, and absolutely, dumb. And zypper/YaST were installed - and used for some weeks - as per the normal 10.3 insallation (smart was nowhere to be seen for weeks).
Each developer gives numbers as he/she finds fit,
I am sure that you did not really mean this. Even the leading exponent of 'chaos', "The OS which shall not be named", doesn't follow this concept.
so one has to ask developer for explanation, or simply try software and see the features, not to assume from number what is included.
More details you can find in http://en.opensuse.org/KDE4 title 'What to expect of KDE 4.0'. They provide 3 links to articles that explain how KDE developers see the version numbering I accept this, but, unfortunately, I cannot boot the CD(s) created from
Kinda difficult to assume, or second-guess, what a developer has in mind if one accepts this idea. the downloaded ISO of the KDE4 LIVE made available a couple of days ago. Ciao. -- Past experience, if not forgotten, is a guide for the future. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org